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A CONTEST - how many ms69 state quarters are coming?

We are having a contest: Guess how many state quarters in ms69 there will be on January 31, 2003 (one year from now). Mitch will award prizes to the closest guess (which he will announce himself).

If you want to participate in this contest, all you have to do is send wondercoin your guess in a private message. No entry fee, and you don't have to buy a state quarter either!

The deadline for entries is February 14, 2002, after which Mitch will post the names of persons who entered and their guess. Sorry, PCGS employees, you are not allowed to enter (especially Rick). Mitch and Tad are not only eligible, but expected to participate – or we post a picture of a chicken.

The purpose of the contest is noble: to see what people really, really think about the possibility of more ms69 state quarters. It is not merely to give all the experts on the Board a chance to show how smart they are. Put your guess, so to speak, where your mouth is. And it will provide a date (next year) at which time board members can go back to reflect on their judgments as well as those of their friends. At that time some will beat their breast . Others will eat crow -- or instead blast PCGS for not agreeing with their judgment.

Good luck to all.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What if more than one member guesses the same answer? For example, mine is ZERO. I'm sure others will speculate the same. Do you then draw a name out of the hat?

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gerry: I was proposing a "daily Double". But, I have perhaps a better idea. First guess how many MS69 state quarters there will be on a certain date. Second, the "tie-breaker question is: guess how many Goodacre Dollars in PCGS-MS69 there will be on the same date. The Goodacre question will only come into play between those with the same correct answer on the state quarter. What do you think? Is this a go? image Wondercoin
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  • Mitch – your tiebreaker is fine with me – I’ll just have to learn something about those Goodacre Dollars image.

    Braddick – my thread title confused things - let’s make the guess what the total number on the pop report will be on January 31, 2003 (including the current one), so your guess should be one (not zero) unless you think the NY-p ms69 will be regraded ms68! (Just joking Mitch and new owner.)

    Also, I hope everyone looks at this as a way of finding out what the opinions of board members are - the prize should really be incidental.

    Mitch - since you will be prevy to everyone’s guesses, it has been suggested that you could take advantage of the situation and make your guess after you saw all others (haha). Why don’t you private me your guesses now, and then I can vouch for you image.

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the question about how many more MS69 state quarters there may be, or just in the next year? Two very different questions.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When is the deadline for this contest? I'd like to take a few days and do a little 'research'.

    peacockcoins

  • dbldie55 – the question is "what will be the pop numbers be on January 31, 2003" – this will obviously include the ones already slabbed (unless they are unslabbed).

    I’d like to make the question how many there will ever be, but even wondercoin will not be around to judge the results that long image!

    braddick – the deadline for entries is February 14, 2002 (see posted message above) and remember the question is what the pop numbers will be on January 31, 2003.

    Good luck everyone. I've already emailed Mitch my entry image.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gerry: I received your guess and a few others. I'll send you my guess probably in a day or two.

    The prize is growing! Looks like between $400-$500 in CW trends value to the winner!! Everyone should play. Nothing to risk and a chance at a nice prize!! "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"-guess and you might just win!! image Wondercoin. P.S. Remember all guess need to include the guess for state quarters and Goodacres.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK. So, guesses are coming in through my PM. This will show a record of exactly when each member guessed and the precise guess. Following the 2/14/02 deadline, I will ask members to state their guesses publicly in a thread and if the stated guess matches the one in my PM, it will be a valid guess for the contest.

    As I mentioned, several "sponsors" of the contest have graciously donated prizes to the prize pool. The final prize pool will be announced shortly after the 2/14/02 deadline.

    So, keep you PM's coming with your guesses (only one PM'ed guess per forum member and household). image Wondercoin.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gerry has now PM'ed me with his guesses. Therefore, anyone wishing to enter their guesses can either PM it to me, or Gerry. The advantage of PM'ing it to Gerry is I won't see it before I enter my guesses. Either place is fine though. image Wondercoin.
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Reminder: The deadline for entries is tonight! image
  • This is a follow-up on the contest asking board members to guess how many state quarters in pcgs-ms69 there will be on January 31, 2003 (one year from now). A tiebreaker question was a guess as to how many Goodacre Dollars in pcgs-ms69 there will be that same date. The Goodacre question will only come into play between those with the same correct answer on the state quarter.

    We are sorry to announce that the deadline for contest entries has passed. Between those entries sent to wondercoin and to me, there were about 16 entries. Mitch has suggested that at this time everyone post a message to this thread giving their guesses and explaining how or why they developed them. We, of course, already have your guesses to insure that no one changes their mind.

    Mitch has reported that several "sponsors" of the contest have graciously donated prizes to the prize pool. He will post a message describing the prize pool shortly.

    OK, I’ll go first in reporting my guesses:

    My guesses (previously emailed to wondercoin on January 30) are 5 state quarters and 2 Goodacre Dollars in ms69 on January 31, 2003.

    How did I arrive at these guesses? First, I used a variety of statistical forecasting techniques, which yielded estimates from –2 to 413,345 for the state quarters. I am a statistician, but I felt that these results were not particularly meaningful. Dismayed, I turned to my 2-year old grandson and said “Lukas, how many state quarters do you think there will be my the end of next January?” He immediately held up one hand, fingers spread apart, which I took to mean 5. I then asked about Goodacre Dollars and he held up both hands, fingers together, which I took to mean 2. These seemed very reasonable in terms of what I see PCGS doing, so I adopted them as my guesses.

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  • I guessed three qtrs. and five dollars.
    There was one, and one, at the time, and I figured there would be twice as many dollars as quarters.
    Why? Strike and handling, I guess.
    So not to get too sophisticated mathematically, I came up with, two and four more of each, respectively, totalling, three and five. Good luck to all.
  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭✭
    3 quarters, 2 dollars. Pop1 used a highly sophisticated method compared to me.

  • 17 quarters, 8 dollars
  • Only 16 guesses? Wow, I might have a shot!

    My guess was 4 and 4 -- slightly higher than I would guess for normal submission rates, but now that both series have had that magic grade made I think there will many more people trying.

    It's basically a wild guess, though. For one thing, the quality (or lack of quality) of the 2002 mint sets could impact the quarter pops one way or another. But more importantly, as I've said before, whether a coin gets the nod for an "ultimate" grade really has as much to do with PCGS policy as the coins themselves.

    So what's up for grabs to the winner? image
  • I did not make it in time for the prize pack, but I will guess for fun ... 18 quarters and 7 dollars ...
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  • Two quarters and one dollar.
    Michael
  • I guessed 27 Quarters and 73 Dollars. I read Goodacre but was thinking Sacagewea so think I really missed the backup guess. I was thinking people might dig up a few handfuls of those quarters. We'll see...
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess was -3- quarters and -4- Goodacres would be the "pops" in a year. The pop was -2- on the quarters at the time of my guess. I guessed that an additional MS69 would be graded before this contest ends. Gerry, correct me if I was wrong, but the ony years of state quarters we are counting for this contest are 1999-2001 coins-right?

    The pop was -1- on Goodacre at the time of my guess. It is now -2-. I guessed -4- because the Goodacres have not received much attention this past year and many collectors may have a few tucked away in ICG holders with no intention of "crossing" the coins. I believe it is more likely that 2003 will be the year larger quantities of Goodacres are submitted to PCGS and the MS69 pop rises well above the -4- I guessed for this upcoming year. We'll see image Wondercoin.

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  • Would 2 Arkansas quarters(half a 69) count as one full 69? If so, I see alot "coming"image
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  • << <i>Guess how many state quarters in ms69 there will be on January 31, 2003 (one year from now). >>



    Sounds like all state quarters Dates,does not matter.

    my guess was 6 states and 3 whatever the back up was I dont even know what that coin is image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Okay, I'll guess 32 state quarters in MS69.image

    Russ, NCNE
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...33.

    What do I win!






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