Seeing Bob Grellman referred to as a copper attribution expert and wondering about the man. I know nothing about the man, anybody have some details? What the heck are all these notations? Auction linkyCent
I know that I've heard the name in a positive tone, from Tom Reynolds, going back about 20 years. Even having never met him, I would tend to give his opinions some credence.
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Bob Grellman and Chris Victor McCrawly are 2 pre-eminant dealers, cataloguers, and researchers in early copper coins of the United States. The notations are as follows: C-1 = Cohen die variety 1. MDS= Middle die state. The grade is split, details being a VF35 on the obverse, and a F15 on the reverse. Hope this helps.
The notations are. C-1 that is the variety- Cohen 1 Mds- Middle die state 35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08
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Bob Grellman is one of the country's foremost experts in early copper, particularly Large Cents. He was a co-author, with Jules Reiver, on an attribution guide for middle and late date Large Cents. Although I do not collect early copper, I have enjoyed getting to know Bob, and talking early minting technology common to both early copper and silver with him. He is a principal in McCawley-Grellman, an auction house and dealer in early copper.
The C1 designation on the cited half cent refers to a Cohen 1 die marriage, from the "Little Sisters" reference on half cents by Cohen.
You can pretty much take any attribution by Bob Grellman to the bank.
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Others have given you insight into who Mr. Grellman is. I can't add to it other than to say he's a very nice and approchable gentleman, is a fellow Floridian, and his grading is very well respected in the EAC community.
That said, are you guys sure that's not a net grade (35/15) rather than a split grade???
Just wondering...Mike
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
<< <i>Others have given you insight into who Mr. Grellman is. I can't add to it other than to say he's a very nice and approchable gentleman, is a fellow Floridian, and his grading is very well respected in the EAC community.
That said, are you guys sure that's not a net grade (35/15) rather than a split grade???
Just wondering...Mike >>
Mike, I suspect that you are right and that it is a details/net grade. The obverse appears to be as porous as the reverse.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
<< <i>The notations are. C-1 that is the variety- Cohen 1 Mds- Middle die state 35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08 >>
The grade given on the card by Bob is the EAC sharpness and the net grade for the coin - as others have already alluded to. If it were a split grade that would be expressly noted on his attribution card.
Bob and Chris run the cooper aspect of all EAC sales and the Goldberg auctions. Bob catalogs the coins - probably the foremost living expert on the late dates and as qualified as anyone on grading and attributing all the large cents. Bob offers a great attribution/grading service at $1 per coin plus postage/ins. - available to EAC members. Don't know if if this service is available to non-EAC members. Bob'is a very nice a personable guy.
<< <i>The notations are. C-1 that is the variety- Cohen 1 Mds- Middle die state 35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08 >>
The grade given on the card by Bob is the EAC sharpness and the net grade for the coin - as others have already alluded to. If it were a split grade that would be expressly noted on his attribution card.
Bob and Chris run the cooper aspect of all EAC sales and the Goldberg auctions. Bob catalogs the coins - probably the foremost living expert on the late dates and as qualified as anyone on grading and attributing all the large cents. Bob offers a great attribution/grading service at $1 per coin plus postage/ins. - available to EAC members. Don't know if if this service is available to non-EAC members. Bob'is a very nice a personable guy. >>
Thank you for the clarification...Mike
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
I agree with Mike and 1798 the grade is sharpness/net due to porosity and other defects such as the contact marks in the obverse field behind the head.
Mike, You are right. It is net graded. I was typing faster than I was Thinking. He always notes why it is net graded, such as in this case porosity or nicks, scratches, rim dings and such. I have seen some split graded but it was noted as 1798CentCollector said.
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I knew it would happen.
Senior Numismatist
Legend Rare Coin Auctions
Mds- Middle die state
35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity
ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08
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The C1 designation on the cited half cent refers to a Cohen 1 die marriage, from the "Little Sisters" reference on half cents by Cohen.
You can pretty much take any attribution by Bob Grellman to the bank.
Good information, I wanted to know about the notations. Good stuff
Brian
Senior Numismatist
Legend Rare Coin Auctions
That said, are you guys sure that's not a net grade (35/15) rather than a split grade???
Just wondering...Mike
<< <i>Others have given you insight into who Mr. Grellman is. I can't add to it other than to say he's a very nice and approchable gentleman, is a fellow Floridian, and his grading is very well respected in the EAC community.
That said, are you guys sure that's not a net grade (35/15) rather than a split grade???
Just wondering...Mike >>
Mike, I suspect that you are right and that it is a details/net grade. The obverse appears to be as porous as the reverse.
If you want your coins properly attributed and graded send them to Bob.
Ray
<< <i>The notations are. C-1 that is the variety- Cohen 1
Mds- Middle die state
35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity
ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08 >>
The grade given on the card by Bob is the EAC sharpness and the net grade for the coin - as others have already alluded to. If it were a split grade that would be expressly noted on his attribution card.
Bob and Chris run the cooper aspect of all EAC sales and the Goldberg auctions. Bob catalogs the coins - probably the foremost living expert on the late dates and as qualified as anyone on grading and attributing all the large cents. Bob offers a great attribution/grading service at $1 per coin plus postage/ins. - available to EAC members. Don't know if if this service is available to non-EAC members. Bob'is a very nice a personable guy.
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<< <i>The notations are. C-1 that is the variety- Cohen 1
Mds- Middle die state
35/15- grade obverse 35 reverse 15 coin has some porosity
ga 2/08 - graded in Ga on 2/08 >>
The grade given on the card by Bob is the EAC sharpness and the net grade for the coin - as others have already alluded to. If it were a split grade that would be expressly noted on his attribution card.
Bob and Chris run the cooper aspect of all EAC sales and the Goldberg auctions. Bob catalogs the coins - probably the foremost living expert on the late dates and as qualified as anyone on grading and attributing all the large cents. Bob offers a great attribution/grading service at $1 per coin plus postage/ins. - available to EAC members. Don't know if if this service is available to non-EAC members. Bob'is a very nice a personable guy. >>
Thank you for the clarification...Mike
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