Ebay Over-Reaction?

Allydom

Please help me out here, guys, and let me know if I am overreacting by leaving a negative and/or whether I should look to do more. I left my first eBay negative in 8 years yesterday. Basically, I should have known that something was too good to be true. In quickly reading through the listing I read the following (note: all caps and positioning of words is verbatim from listing):

Listing Title: 1984 TOPPS box baseball unopened rack pack PSA 10

UP FOR AUCTION IS AN UNOPENED 1984 TOPPS RACK PACK BOX
single pack. Most of my packs have stars showing such as
Pete Rose, Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken, Eddie Murray, George
Brett, Reggie Jackson, Tom Seaver, Steve Carlton, and so on.
1984 is also the rookie year for Don Mattingly and Darryl
Strawberry. The Mattingly card sells for $175 in PSA Gem
Mint 10. The Pete Rose sells for $90 in PSA 10 and the
Nolan Ryan sells for $100 or more in PSA 10. Old unopened
packs are the best way to find gem mint cards for grading.
There are still 2 or 3 hundred cards left in this set that have
yet to receive a PSA 10 grade. Just look around and see how
much cards sell for that are the highest grade for that card.
They can sell for hundreds or thousands of dollars!!!!!!!!!!!
Old unopened packs are also great to just put away and sell
years from now and make a small fortune. Who knows what
you may find in the pack you win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of my items are always shipped very well protected.
Insurance is always available at current postal rates.
Email me with any questions and thanks for looking.
Sorry, no returns on unopened items due to people opening,
searching, and resealing.


I won the item at roughly $12.50 thinking that I had won a rack box. Now I will freely concede that the listing eventually "clarifies" that this is for a single rack and that the price I won at was low for a box. Still, stranger things have happened and this Title and Description seem to be purposefully misleading. I frankly took the Title and the first bold, set off sentence's word for it. I could and should have read further, but this just looks to be designed to mislead people as to the real item for sale. In fact, in looking through this guy's feedback (gregs4wheel) it appears that most of his auctions are set up this way and he occasionally pulls in a sucker -- like me, I guess -- (he has sold a single 1983 Topps Wax Pack for over $30, etc., etc.)

The Negative Feedback I left was as follows:


Buyers beware. Very misleading title and listing. No "box" is being sold here.

The Retaliation I got was as follows:

Listing clearly says "SINGLE PACK". hoyajay can't read! Must still live with mom

I think the retaliating feedback says it all. I especially am amused by the all caps on "SINGLE PACK" a word that is conspicuously not in all caps and also cut off from the "tag line" in his listing.

All right, guys, tell me I'm wrong; but I feel that if a relatively sophisticated EBayer like myself (thousands of transactions over the years) can be duped; that this is a bad, misleading listing

MeteoriteGuy

I think it is more misleading having PSA in the title, however, yes, you did likely over react. The seller should have capitalized the "single pack", but title and description does say it is a single pack. Description also notes at bottom "Who knows what
you may find in the pack you win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I think we have all bidded on something a little trigger happy...but that is not the sellers fault....or at least completely.

Allydom

I hear you and appreciate the fedback, but I keep getting hung up on the fact that the first operative word in the title and the topic sentence is "box". It's like saying give me a "Budweiser Six Pack, single beer" If I want a single beer, I don't need to mention the larger packaging it comes from and I certainly wouldn't start my sentence that way!

otwcards

<< <i>I hear you and appreciate the fedback, but I keep getting hung up on the fact that the first operative word in the title and the topic sentence is "box". It's like saying give me a "Budweiser Six Pack, single beer" If I want a single beer, I don't need to mention the larger packaging it comes from and I certainly wouldn't start my sentence that way! >>



While I feel for you, I don't understand the purpose of your post.

Is it to warn us about the seller or to have someone pat you on the head and tell you that you did the right thing?

You didn't read the auction -- plain and simple. You jumped the gun and even though the listing is misleading, you want to blame someone else for your assumption and want the rest of us to feel sorry for you and applaud the fact that you left the seller a negative.

I'm sorry. To be honest, while the title and description may be confusing and misleading, YOU are responsible for knowing and understanding what YOU are bidding on. The fact is that YOU got exactly what the seller was offering in his auction. After receiving the item, did you contact the seller or just post the negative feedback in anger? Now, you want to complain about the fact that the seller left you a negative in retaliation even though he delivered as per their auction?

So, you ask us to help you out? Sorry . . . no can do. You have to bite the bullet on this one yourself.

Allydom

Thanks again for the response. I am not looking to be patted on the head and I'm not surprised by the retaliation. I wanted to get the honest opinion of a community of individuals that I trust on whether I (not the Seller) "overreacted" or "jumped the gun" in giving the guy a negative. He did exactly what I would expect him to do (well, maybe not the reference to my mother, but I would chalk that up to a difference in "style") I think you've answered my question from your point of view and I appreciate your candor. We often talk about involving new people in our hobby and I frequently read postings about the "evils' of eBay on this board. For the first time in probably 1800 transactions, I had a feeling that I was cheated; and was worried that if I can get cheated then so, too, can others. I paid the seller promptly and took my lumps. So be it. I really just wanted to get a feeling from others if this seller's actions were a particularly bad act warranting my contacting eBay or just run of the mill "puffery" that I should just let go. Sounds like in your opinion i should just live by "buyer beware." Fair enough.

Ukiah

My reaction? Yeah, it says "pack" and I caught it. The part that would have had me running is the super-sell on PSA 10s. I haven't done a search or anything, but I would bet these days someone would love to sell a psa 10 1984 for $2. I can't figure out why people pay $10 to grade a card worth $3 and wonder why they are losing money...dooops...that's another subject...LOL>

Mindbinge

if anyone has any 1984 $2 PSA 10's for sale...PM me please...lol