Sheet cut PSA menko babe ruth

dizzle

Ok, I been seeing these 1950's menko sheets on ebay with babe ruth and thought they were pretty cool but not cool enough to justify the price Anyway..

I noticed a few of the babe ruth cards that are featured on the sheet in PSA slabs with a numerical grade.
My question is since there is no dotted line to distinguish where the cut should be made can't a guy buy a PSA 7 trim it and resubmit for a higher grade? Not that I would do this it just seems there should be a certain size requirement or something to prevent just this. Does this make sense to anyone or am I missing something here? Below is two from current ebay auctions notice the one on the left has quite larger boarders.

Bosox1976

Sure seems possible. The one on the right looks like a Menko Mini.

otwcards

One important thing to take into consideration is that if the surface (front or back) has flaws, no trimming or squaring off will correct that. I'm assuming, from the images provided, that the corners aren't the problem with either card.

dizzle

<< <i>One important thing to take into consideration is that if the surface (front or back) has flaws, no trimming or squaring off will correct that. I'm assuming, from the images provided, that the corners aren't the problem with either card. >>



Ok but the problem I'm having here is "what if" you had one that was perfect besides say the bottom 2 corners a guy could just crack it out trim it resub and have his gem mint card.

I thought PSA does not grade sheet cut cards? I'm just kinda confused here is there not a specified size requirement for these then or what? Like I said If I'm missing something here let me know.

otwcards

<< <i>Ok but the problem I'm having here is "what if" you had one that was perfect besides say the bottom 2 corners a guy could just crack it out trim it resub and have his gem mint card.

I thought PSA does not grade sheet cut cards? I'm just kinda confused here is there not a specified size requirement for these then or what? Like I said If I'm missing something here let me know. >>



PSA recently changed their policy with regard to hand cut and/or strip cards. They still state that they do not grade cards "cut" from sheets (I'm assuming this is with regard to mainstream manufacturer issues). I think that you are confusing sheet only issues with standard factory issues that are cut from sheets.

With regard to trimming an "oversized" Menko, I don't see how it could be anything more than an ethics issue as there isn't a defined size standard. I get the feeling that PSA (and any other TPG that grades them) is flying by the seat of their pants on this one...

Hope this helps.

KyleBicking

PSA still grades strip cards - they did for me last week. Anything with a dotted line or dashed line should be gradeable.

As for the mini PSA 7 Menko, I submitted that card. Did a cruddy of cutting it, and it was badly off centered on the back. In my hast to submit something that looked "presentable" it became a mini bordered "mini". I was satisified with the grade afterall too.

Word of advice on the Menko sheets, the bottom edge falls victim to toning/staining issues.

otwcards

<< <i>PSA still grades strip cards - they did for me last week. Anything with a dotted line or dashed line should be gradeable. >>



My statement was referring to PSA having changed their policy TO GRADE strip and sheet cards. The OP seemed to be under the impression that they DID NOT. I was using the words "recently" to convey that it is a relatively new policy.

dizzle

Scott, Thanks for some clarification. I'm not too familliar with this issue or ones like it and was just kinda thrown off seeing 2 with such a great difference in size holdered with a numerical grade.

KyleBicking

I've seen them graded with and without the dashed lines. Moving forward, dashed or dotted is a requirement in my opinion. I've seen high grade without the dashed or dotted sell for very low amounts.