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endless paypal claim over $40

jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
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I bought a 1972 sunoco book and some packs of stickers. The book was trashed, missing pages, torn, stained, water damage. 3 packs short, some were sealed and some were opened. Not quite as described but that happens sometimes.

Emailed the seller, he told me to f off. I started getting foul rude threatening emails immediately.

Filed a claim, here's my claim details. Over a $40 sale. Just amazing that somebody has this much time and paypal lets it go on. If I counted right they have ruled against him 7 times, and he has appealed 7 times.


Apr. 17, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Apr. 17, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Apr. 17, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Apr. 17, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Apr. 17, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Mar. 16, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Mar. 16, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Mar. 16, 2008 Seller Email sent to PayPal
Mar. 16, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Mar. 16, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Mar. 16, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Mar. 9, 2008 Seller Email sent to PayPal
Mar. 9, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Mar. 9, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Mar. 9, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Mar. 9, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Mar. 9, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Jan. 29, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Jan. 29, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Jan. 29, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Jan. 29, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Jan. 29, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Jan. 10, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Jan. 10, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Jan. 9, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Jan. 9, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Jan. 9, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Jan. 3, 2008 PayPal Case under review
Jan. 3, 2008 Seller Decision appealed
Jan. 3, 2008 PayPal Case closed
Jan. 3, 2008 PayPal Appeal denied
Jan. 3, 2008 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 28, 2007 Buyer Email sent to PayPal
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Case under review
Dec. 27, 2007 Seller Decision appealed
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Case closed
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Refund issued
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 27, 2007 PayPal Refund initiated
Dec. 23, 2007 PayPal Case under review
Dec. 19, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 19, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 19, 2007 Buyer Return shipped
Dec. 13, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 13, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 13, 2007 Seller Refund buyer upon receipt of item
Dec. 13, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 13, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 13, 2007 Buyer Dispute escalated to claim
Dec. 12, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 12, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 12, 2007 PayPal Email sent to seller
Dec. 12, 2007 PayPal Email sent to buyer
Dec. 13, 2007 Buyer Dispute filed

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Comments

  • 1neatstuff1neatstuff Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭
    unreal also almost as bad as ebays new feedback system geesh
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    amazing.

    BUT, when you fully understand the "quality" of the people buying/selling
    on EBAY, it is not THAT "amazing."

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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    It's still amazing that PayPal lets you appeal more than once.

    Nick
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    Reap the whirlwind.

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  • MorgothMorgoth Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭
    WTF is paypal doing here, how is this lean or saving them money letting this linger?
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  • LeiascardsLeiascards Posts: 3,233
    Have you called Paypal and asked them why he keeps getting to appeal. I thought you were only allowed one appeal and none on a SNAD claim.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Let me get this straight.... this guy now has his item back, and you have your refund.

    The seller's attempting to collect the money as well? Sounds like the seller's trying to be a thief.



    During the dispute, what did the seller write in defense of himself?


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  • mexisarmexisar Posts: 394


    << <i>Have you called Paypal and asked them why he keeps getting to appeal. I thought you were only allowed one appeal and none on a SNAD claim. >>


    I didn't even know paypal allowed sellers to appeal after a case is closed. As fas as I know buyers are not allowed to appeal after a case is closed.
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  • BobaFett72BobaFett72 Posts: 7,304
    im a bit confused, so who has the money at this point? and why are there constant appeals?
  • MeteoriteGuyMeteoriteGuy Posts: 7,140 ✭✭
    I think the bidder got his money when he won the case, the seller has been trying to reverse it.
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    I was the bidder and got my refund after sending the stuff back to him with delivery confirmation. Paypal hasn't sent me anything at all about the case in more than a month.

    I just never knew they had appeals, let alone endless appeals.

    This is the only response I've been able to see thru paypal -

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    "PAYPAL: DO NOT REFUND THIS GUY 1 PENNY. HE FILES A PAYPAL CLAIM WITH OUT E- MAILING ME TELLING ME HE IS NOT SATISFIED SO I COULD ISSUE A REFUND AND THEN LEAVS ME A NEGATIVE CALLING ME AN IDIOT. DO NOT PAY HIM A DIME. I HAVE RETAINED AN ATTORNEY TO SUE FOR DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER AND PAYPAL WILL BE INCLUDED IF YOU TAKE MY MONEY.... UNDERSTOOD?? DO NOT GIVE THIS GUY A DIME!!!"
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  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    "PAYPAL: DO NOT REFUND THIS GUY 1 PENNY. HE FILES A PAYPAL CLAIM WITH OUT E- MAILING ME TELLING ME HE IS NOT SATISFIED SO I COULD ISSUE A REFUND AND THEN LEAVS ME A NEGATIVE CALLING ME AN IDIOT. DO NOT PAY HIM A DIME. I HAVE RETAINED AN ATTORNEY TO SUE FOR DEFORMATION OF CHARACTER AND PAYPAL WILL BE INCLUDED IF YOU TAKE MY MONEY.... UNDERSTOOD?? DO NOT GIVE THIS GUY A DIME!!!"
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    DeFORMation of character? Seems like he's defaming the English language.

    I'd love to know how much it cost to retain his "attorney" over a $40.00 dispute (my tongue is planted firmly in my cheek as I know there's no way that statement is valid). Perhaps this "attorney" took the case on contingency... image

    This is too friggin' funny. Please PM me the eBayer's ID so that I can avoid such a classy seller.
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