Minimum Size Requirement

kshorton

Seeking assist. I just got two cards back from PSA that were not graded. The sticker says 'MINSIZERQ' on both. Online it states N6: Minimum Size Requirement.

I don't even know what they are telling me. Are they saying the cards were tirmmed or something ?

71 Bart Starr Topps
92 Shaq Trade Card Upper Deck

ymarea

Exactly right. I had one come back with the same result recently. I suspected it may have been trimmed because it was a tad smaller than the typical card. I tore it in half and tossed it.

Edit: It wasn't a card of any monetary value...a '72 OPC CFL Hugh Oldham #66.

Rogermnj

Actually if they suspected that it was trimmed it would say trimmed on the sticker when you got it back. Min Size Req means it just doesnt measure up (usually a factory miscut) but they do not suspect trimming.

MuckyMutt

Minimum size requirement is not too uncommon for OPC issues. It just means they were cut too small - probably originally at the factory. PSA won't put a grade on them though.

Elemenopeo

The only time I ever received a card back with the minsizerq sticker, I submitted it again and it came back slabbed... So, if you think the card's worth the trouble of a second try, it may work out for ya.

ymarea

<< <i>Actually if they suspected that it was trimmed it would say trimmed on the sticker when you got it back. Min Size Req means it just doesnt measure up (usually a factory miscut) but they do not suspect trimming. >>



Thanks, rogermnj, I stand corrected. I'm still fairly new to the PSA scene.

ymarea

<< <i>Minimum size requirement is not too uncommon for OPC issues. It just means they were cut too small - probably originally at the factory. PSA won't put a grade on them though. >>




Mickey Mutt, thanks for that. It makes sense. I've had such an unusually high percentage of OPC's that were undersized that I was skeptical about them ALL having been trimmed. The '72 OPC CFL set is my very first venture into OPC cards, so I am learning as I go.

MuckyMutt

<< <i>
Mickey Mutt, thanks for that. It makes sense. I've had such an unusually high percentage of OPC's that were undersized that I was skeptical about them ALL having been trimmed. The '72 OPC CFL set is my very first venture into OPC cards, so I am learning as I go. >>



You know that they're not trimmed if that have that beautiful OPC rough cut too.

relaxed

N-6 Minimum Size Requirement - When a card is significantly undersized according to factory specifications. You will be given a voucher good for another submission for the same type of service. I had one on my recent submission and customer service said that they will forwarding a voucher to me soon that there was no need to tell them who you are as they will be coming to see automatically.

41GoudeyGuy

I just had a submission which came back with one of the cards getting an N9: No Grade. Probably because the card is oversized since every other card in the submission was from the same set and all got slabbed. Anyway, they sent me a voucher in the mail about 1-2 weeks later.

GOODLIEU

I had a lot of those with raw Topps Basketball stickers (1971 Trios and 1973 Team Sticker inserts) I resubmitted some and had some sucess and always recieved the vouchers so you dont lose any money on the grading fees. Its way better this way rather than coming back trimmed.

otwcards

I've always considered MINSIZE a freebie. Since I get a voucher, I figure it isn't costing me anything to send it in again (on another order unassociated with the voucher). I've had a few of these with vintage football, especially 1948 Leaf, which tend to run narrow, wide, tall and/or short. I have yet to have a MINSIZE rejection get rejected a second time.

blades3

I've never understood this minimum size thing. Isn't this exactly what you send a card to a grading company for? If it's a tad short, you want to find out if it's trimmed or filed or doctored in any way. You already know if it's a little short. I view this as a cop out answer because they should be able to look at the edges to know if it's been trimmed or not. If it's trimmed, tell me it's trimmed. If it's not trimmed, then grade and send it back to me in a PSA holder.

Mickey71

blades3,
Amen brother. This is a way of grading companies telling you they are not experts. SHHH. There is nothing exact about the trimming of a card and the whole size thing. Cutting processes back in the day were very un exact. I've had 56's with a lot more card on one edge where it looks like someone ripped it off the sheet and part of the other card is still on it.
Mickey71

ymarea

<< <i>I've never understood this minimum size thing. Isn't this exactly what you send a card to a grading company for? If it's a tad short, you want to find out if it's trimmed or filed or doctored in any way. You already know if it's a little short. I view this as a cop out answer because they should be able to look at the edges to know if it's been trimmed or not. If it's trimmed, tell me it's trimmed. If it's not trimmed, then grade and send it back to me in a PSA holder. >>



Blades3,
You make an excellent point. I have several cards currently in PSA holders that are as small or smaller than the one that was rejected for not meeting minimum size requirements. Then I read all the posts from those whose cards were rejected, only to get slabbed on a second go 'round. Personally, I don't think I have the courage to resubmit such a card, but I may just give it a shot some day if the opportunity arises.

rose4192

Their guidelines require that the card be within 1/16th of an inch of the official size. That's not much wiggle room. I can clearly see that being a problem with some of the opee chee cards I've seen. I've seen some of those cards that looked oversized. If a card is oversized and you trim it, will they slab it?

RipublicaninMass

. If a card is oversized and you trim it, will they slab it?

Nope, then it will be trimmed=no voucher