New Eisenhower Variety Sets

19Lyds · April 22, 2008 9:39AM

I just got an email from BJ denoting what coins will be included in the new Eisenhower Variteis Sets:

1971-S SILVER Peg Leg FS-401 (Business Strike)
1971-S/S SILVER RPM FS-501 (Business Strike)
1971-S SILVER DDO FS-103 (Proof)
1971-S SILVER DDO FS-106 (Proof)
1972-S SILVER DDO FS-101 (Proof)
1973-S SILVER DDO FS-101 (Proof)

Please note that the RDV-006 has been excluded yet again.

I suppose this is a step in the right direction but not a realistic enough step IMHO.

halfnut · April 22, 2008 10:16AM

Welcome to the merry go round, Us Kennedy collectors have been riding it for quite some time. Enjoy the ride.

Dan

19Lyds · April 22, 2008 10:22AM

Which Kennedy's are you waiting for specifically?

The RDV-006 is a completely different reverse variety.

pragmaticgoat · April 22, 2008 10:31AM

Lee,

What's a 1971-S/S SILVER RPM FS-501 (Business Strike) look like?

Joe

GRANDAM · April 22, 2008 11:31AM

1971-S/S SILVER RPM FS-501 (Business Strike)

This one sure came out of left field?

Grandam

19Lyds · April 22, 2008 11:31AM

RPM = Repunched Mint Mark.

Actually, this is kinda cool since there are less than a half dozen of these known! This means that only 6 folks can complete their registry sets!

Edited to correctly state that only about 6 RPMs are known in the Eisenhower Series and not just 6 1971-S/S known.

pragmaticgoat · April 22, 2008 11:54AM

Wow, now that's not reasonable.
The RDV-006 would have been a 1000% better choice than that.

Joe

19Lyds · April 23, 2008 9:14AM

Come on IKE guys!

I'd be curious to know how many folks out there actually have a certified, PCGS or ANACS, RPM 1971-S Business Strike?

I'd also like a poll on how many collectors have Friendly Eagle Variety hoards or mini-hoards.

I currently have about 48 that are ungraded at MS63 or less.

pragmaticgoat · April 23, 2008 9:44AM

<< Come on IKE guys!

I'd be curious to know how many folks out there actually have a certified, PCGS or ANACS, RPM 1971-S Business Strike?

I'd also like a poll on how many collectors have Friendly Eagle Variety hoards or mini-hoards.

I currently have about 48 that are ungraded at MS63 or less. >>

I don't have nor have I ever seen an RPM 71s business strike, putting this in the variety set over the RDV-006 is rediculous.
I have four 71s peg leg business strikes, and six Friendly Eagles.

Joe

LindeDad · April 23, 2008 10:02AM

More sets that nobody will have the coins for?

TAClough · April 23, 2008 10:36AM

<< 1971-S/S SILVER RPM FS-501 (Business Strike)

This one sure came out of left field?

Grandam

>>

Well, at least the 1971-S/S RPM FS-501 is in a recognized reference book (Fourth Edition, Cherrypickers' Guide, Vol II). This is more then I can say about the 1964 SMS Kennedy that we have to put up with

RBinTex · April 23, 2008 10:40AM

Sweet

FS-015.8 for us oldtimers. FS-103 for the new guys

19Lyds · April 23, 2008 12:05PM

<< 

<< 1971-S/S SILVER RPM FS-501 (Business Strike)

This one sure came out of left field?

Grandam

>>

Well, at least the 1971-S/S RPM FS-501 is in a recognized reference book (Fourth Edition, Cherrypickers' Guide, Vol II). This is more then I can say about the 1964 SMS Kennedy that we have to put up with

>>

I have absolutely no idea why PCGS felt it necessary to put that in the Registry! Friggin coins cost thousands and yet mention a 1964 SMS Set to most dealers and they'll scratch their heads thinking your an idiot! I mean, EVERYBODY knows SMS sets were onlyproduced in 1965, 1966 and 1967! DUH!

Why the heck did they add that one?

Silverstate · April 24, 2008 6:20AM

<< Sweet

FS-015.8 for us oldtimers. FS-103 for the new guys

>>

You have to send this coin back to PCGS to be able to use it in your registry set.

That will be $ 20 plus shipping please!!

RBinTex · April 24, 2008 7:16AM

"You have to send this coin back to PCGS to be able to use it in your registry set.

That will be $ 20 plus shipping please!!"

Tell you a secret. You can ask them to adjust the cert number in their database so that the new set accepts it - IF YOU KNOW WHO TO ASK.

Rampage · April 24, 2008 8:56AM

Anyone know what the population is for the FS-103 and 106? Thanks.

Rampage · April 24, 2008 9:11AM

Nevermind my last question. I see they have been added to the regular pop reports now.

19Lyds · April 24, 2008 12:47PM

I gotta poll on the US forum.

If you'd like to see the RDV-006 Friendly Eagle Variety added, put your vote in!

Silverstate · April 26, 2008 10:22AM

You would think a "Registry Approved" variety would not cost an ADDED $ 20 when you submit them to PCGS.

19Lyds · April 27, 2008 2:00AM

<< You would think a "Registry Approved" variety would not cost an ADDED $ 20 when you submit them to PCGS. >>

Yer probably right since my 1974-D DDO Kennedy's didn;t cost an "extra" $20!

wondercoin · April 27, 2008 2:37AM

Sweet
FS-015.8 for us oldtimers. FS-103 for the new guys

RBinTEX (or anyone else)- the PR65 example you posted looks to me like a partial peg leg example as well. Is that right? Are they all partial Peg Legs?

Wondercoin

RBinTex · April 27, 2008 3:22AM

Obverse is ODV-006 (Peg Leg R)

Also, the reverse is listed as DDR-001: Light triple spread on RICA of AMERICA, stars under those letters, AR of DOLLAR, and double on remainder of stars and lettering around rim including E PLURIBUS UNUM

19Lyds · April 27, 2008 5:32AM

<< RBinTEX (or anyone else)- the PR65 example you posted looks to me like a partial peg leg example as well. Is that right? Are they all partial Peg Legs?

Wondercoin >>

Mitch, I think that since this is die specific, if one is a peg leg then they would all be a pegleg.
The frost might appear different due to die state but then the frost is not what dictates whether a coin is a pegleg or not.

FWIW, the photo makes it look closer to ODV-005 than ODV-006 to me.

ODV-005

ODV-006

RBinTex · April 27, 2008 9:04AM

If anyone wants to navigate the unknown reserves and easily shilled auctions of Teletrade, check these out ending tonight:

FS-103 (PR67 $500)

FS-106 (1) (PR66CAM $400)

FS-106 (2) (PR66 Did Not Sell)

Silverstate · April 27, 2008 11:44AM

<< "You have to send this coin back to PCGS to be able to use it in your registry set.

That will be $ 20 plus shipping please!!"

Tell you a secret. You can ask them to adjust the cert number in their database so that the new set accepts it - IF YOU KNOW WHO TO ASK.

>>

I would be curious about that. "E" Coins got dropped from all sets.
I believe it needs to be reholdered.

19Lyds · April 28, 2008 12:46AM

<< If anyone wants to navigate the unknown reserves and easily shilled auctions of Teletrade, check these out ending tonight:

FS-103 (PR67 $500)

FS-106 (1) (PR66CAM $400)

FS-106 (2) (PR66 Did Not Sell) >>

Man those are selling quite high!

Silverstate · May 1, 2008 2:14AM

<< 

<< If anyone wants to navigate the unknown reserves and easily shilled auctions of Teletrade, check these out ending tonight:

FS-103 (PR67 $500)

FS-106 (1) (PR66CAM $400)

FS-106 (2) (PR66 Did Not Sell) >>

Man those are selling quite high! >>

They are low pops and the question is how many will now show up?

RBinTex · May 1, 2008 7:33AM

fyi: here's a LINK to all the PCGS No's. for the Ike varieties.

Silverstate · May 10, 2008 10:03AM

<< RPM = Repunched Mint Mark.

Actually, this is kinda cool since there are less than a half dozen of these know! This means that only 6 folks can complete their registry sets! >>

Isn't this a 1/2 dozen RPM's in the sets.

So there are 6 or so RPM (varieties) in the series, not 6 coins only.

Let's find some varieties!!

TAClough · May 10, 2008 10:23AM

Jim,

If a coin is listed with a URS-6, it means 17-32 known examples.

Tim

Silverstate · May 10, 2008 12:24PM

Tim,

I realize that but the comment that I quoted seems to allude to fact that on 6 example of that variety would be available for collectors.

More than half dozen RPM with lots of examples of each to find!

Some collectors get bummed out on the rare varieties since everyone cannot have one.
Most seem to be out there to find.

Thanks.

19Lyds · May 11, 2008 1:13AM

<< 

<< RPM = Repunched Mint Mark.

Actually, this is kinda cool since there are less than a half dozen of these know! This means that only 6 folks can complete their registry sets! >>

Isn't this a 1/2 dozen RPM's in the sets.

So there are 6 or so RPM (varieties) in the series, not 6 coins only.

Let's find some varieties!!

>>

Perhaps, perhaps not.

When the Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars was recently re-released, I found this page rather interesting:

Although my original softcopy book is packed away somethere, I distinctly remember that the 1971-S RPM was the only RPM mentioned in that version. CONECA lists only the 1971-S and Variety Vista is devoid of any RPM listings for "dollars"

I have no idea who the advisor for the Eisenhower Dollars was for the CPG.

19Lyds · May 19, 2008 5:37AM

<< I gotta poll on the US forum.

If you'd like to see the RDV-006 Friendly Eagle Variety added, put your vote in! >>

Well, its official.

I received a note from BJ stating that the "Powers That Be" will not attribute the Friendly Eagle Variety (aka: RDV-006)

Silverstate · May 20, 2008 4:45AM

<< 

<< I gotta poll on the US forum.

If you'd like to see the RDV-006 Friendly Eagle Variety added, put your vote in! >>

Well, its official.

I received a note from BJ stating that the "Powers That Be" will not attribute the Friendly Eagle Variety (aka: RDV-006) >>

gabrielmurphy · May 27, 2008 4:31AM

<< 

<< I gotta poll on the US forum.

If you'd like to see the RDV-006 Friendly Eagle Variety added, put your vote in! >>

Well, its official.

I received a note from BJ stating that the "Powers That Be" will not attribute the Friendly Eagle Variety (aka: RDV-006) >>

Hello

gabrielmurphy · May 27, 2008 4:35AM

Hello 19Lyds:

Can you send me a PM with your email address or other contact info. I would like to discuss several Eisenhower dollars with you privately.

Thanks!

wondercoin · May 27, 2008 5:56AM

Gabriel - Welcome to the forums.

You need to edit you profile to add all those #1 modern sets you forgot to mention

Wondercoin

19Lyds · May 28, 2008 2:54AM

<< Hello 19Lyds:

Can you send me a PM with your email address or other contact info. I would like to discuss several Eisenhower dollars with you privately.

Thanks! >>

PM Sent.

Silverstate · May 28, 2008 8:33AM

So, it seems that PCGS is just going to add the "Cherry Pickers' Guide varieties" to the sets for now.

Lee,
Is that what BJ indicated or was there just no explanation, just this is how it is?

I kind of liked the idea of the "Friendly Eagle" variety.

You can't always get what you want..(A Rolling stone Song, just popped into my head!)

19Lyds · May 28, 2008 2:44PM

PCGS is not ready to get into the die varieties on their own so they are opting to just recognize published varieties (i.e. CPG) and nothing more. I believe that this is a direct result of the comment made by David Hall that PCGS would attribute any coin in the CPG.

I have been told that the IKE series has 100's of minor DDO and DDR coins of which I can fully understand PCGS not getting on board with those. But anybody with any kind of experience with IKEs can spot the FEV without a loupe so to not recognize this coin is an injustice.

To answer your question, yes, PCGS will only go with the CPG varieties. The only hope now is for an updated edition of which I know personally that some of the IKE group have talked with the publishers and hopefully convinced them to at least include the FEV in the next issue.

Remember, the latest CPG didn;t come out until August of 2006 which was 7 months before Coin World published info on it in the Collectors Clearing House.

Maybe next time.

TAClough · May 31, 2008 2:48PM

<< PCGS is not ready to get into the die varieties on their own so they are opting to just recognize published varieties (i.e. CPG) and nothing more. I believe that this is a direct result of the comment made by David Hall that PCGS would attribute any coin in the CPG.

I have been told that the IKE series has 100's of minor DDO and DDR coins of which I can fully understand PCGS not getting on board with those. But anybody with any kind of experience with IKEs can spot the FEV without a loupe so to not recognize this coin is an injustice.

To answer your question, yes, PCGS will only go with the CPG varieties. The only hope now is for an updated edition of which I know personally that some of the IKE group have talked with the publishers and hopefully convinced them to at least include the FEV in the next issue.

Remember, the latest CPG didn;t come out until August of 2006 which was 7 months before Coin World published info on it in the Collectors Clearing House.

Maybe next time. >>

I wish your statement was true, but unfortunately PCGS likes to classify coins as "varieties" that no one, and I mean no one, else considers as such. I guess sometimes the rules apply and somethimes they don't !

bsb · June 13, 2008 6:26PM

New Eisenhower Variety Sets

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