Millenia catalogs arrived !

GDJMSP

Finally - came home to find the 1st and 3rd (Ancient & New World) catalogs waiting on me. Lordy those are some gorgeous coins Hopefully the European catalog arrives tomorrow.

For those without subscriptions who want these catalogs - you better hurry. And they aint cheap - $295 for the set.

Silvereagle82

<< <i>Finally - came home to find the 1st and 3rd (Ancient & New World) catalogs waiting on me. Lordy those are some gorgeous coins Hopefully the European catalog arrives tomorrow.

For those without subscriptions who want these catalogs - you better hurry. And they aint cheap - $295 for the set. >>



Doug,
I received all three catalogs today and what a sight for sore eyes. The coins are great, photos are beautiful and the catalog descriptions are very extensive. I agree this is a set of catalogs for the ages !!

I'm saving my pennies (I'll need a lot) for this one ............ psst don't tell the wife !!!

Doogy

I too received mine today, all three volumes, and was drooling all over my desk. A fabulous presentation, something to hang onto for posterity. Ira was gracious enough to send me my copies free of charge, after speaking with him at length at the ANA. A true class act, and a wonderful collection of the world rarities!

worldcoinguy

These catalogs are works of art in themselves. Very well done.

worldcoinguy

GDJMSP -
I am curious to hear your perspective on how this auction stacks up to others in the last 20 years. I dont know how long you have been in the world coin arena, so I hope I am not making any offensive assumptions ..... I'm just interested to know how this one stacks up against other "big ones" of significance.
Brent

eCoinquest

I received mine today too. The some of the Victorian pieces really caught my eye. All of them are so beautiful and the color photos and detailed descriptions make me want them all.

GDJMSP

<< <i>GDJMSP -
I am curious to hear your perspective on how this auction stacks up to others in the last 20 years. I dont know how long you have been in the world coin arena, so I hope I am not making any offensive assumptions ..... I'm just interested to know how this one stacks up against other "big ones" of significance.
Brent >>



I can't begin to go back 20 years. But for the years I can go back, I only know of two individual auctions that could even come close - The Eliasberg World Gold in 2005 and the Kroisos Collection this year. This collection, in my opinion, easily surpasses both of those. Now I readily admit that there have been a couple of the annual Jan shows in New York that had stunning coins, but I don't think they could even touch this. There are many great rarities being offered. The scope of this collection is amazing. It truly has it all, from ancients to 19th century, and from just about every country you can think of - with many of the coins being the finest known.

In all honesty, I can't imagine this collection ever being surpassed.

And yes, the European catalog came today

Doogy

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<< <i>GDJMSP -
I am curious to hear your perspective on how this auction stacks up to others in the last 20 years. I dont know how long you have been in the world coin arena, so I hope I am not making any offensive assumptions ..... I'm just interested to know how this one stacks up against other "big ones" of significance.
Brent >>



I can't begin to go back 20 years. But for the years I can go back, I only know of two individual auctions that could even come close - The Eliasberg World Gold in 2005 and the Kroisos Collection this year. This collection, in my opinion, easily surpasses both of those. Now I readily admit that there have been a couple of the annual Jan shows in New York that had stunning coins, but I don't think they could even touch this. There are many great rarities being offered. The scope of this collection is amazing. It truly has it all, from ancients to 19th century, and from just about every country you can think of - with many of the coins being the finest known.

In all honesty, I can't imagine this collection ever being surpassed.

And yes, the European catalog came today >>




indeed. In talking with Ira, he explained the goal for assembling the collection and what his mystery (at least to us) owner had in mind. The owner had assembled and sold a couple very, very high end US sets, the finest of their kind according to him. When Ira and Larry set forth, they were basically told that the budget was virtually limitless to assemble the greatest collection ever of the world's rarest coins, in the highest states of preservation. I think they accomplished exactly that, and aside from some very wealthy person stepping forward and buying every lot, I don't see this feat being duplicated; not at least in our lifetimes.

In talking recently to some overseas collector friends, this auction has generated tremendous buzz internationally and the coins will likely go "to the winds", never to be seen grouped together again. One thing I'm relatively sure of; this auction should easily set world coin auction records for prices realized, as it should.

SYRACUSIAN

I once bid against myself at a Goldberg's auction, and at least I receive their cats ever since. I won that lot too of course.

If I could have two picks, it would be lot 710, Greece 1876 100 drs gold, NGC PF64, the crown jewel of all Greek collections in near gem proof, and a much more modest lot 556 French 1830-A 40 francs NGC MS64.

Preussen

<< <i>For those without subscriptions who want these catalogs - you better hurry. And they aint cheap - $295 for the set. >>

I also received them; #1 & 3 on Wednesday and #2 on Thursday. That's quite a collection ...I've bid on Goldberg's auctions over the years & receive their catalogs regularly, but I've never paid for them. I didn't realize I was so special but I do appreciate receiving them. -Preussen

Silvereagle82

<< <i>In talking recently to some overseas collector friends, this auction has generated tremendous buzz internationally >>



Doug,

This concerns me with the Euro being at record levels to the dollar and the British Pound at near alltime highs.
I have a feeling that these coins will hammer at record $$$ levels due primarily to these factors if European collectors have signifcant interest.

For now it is bad for US collectors like me .... but in the long run ????

I have my eye on a few gold coins that I hope I can stay in the hunt for without selling the farm but with significant overseas interest (bidding) it could be tough.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the coins I'm interested in are overlooked by the those collectors with big bank rolls

coinkat

I guess mine got lost in the mail...

Doogy

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<< <i>In talking recently to some overseas collector friends, this auction has generated tremendous buzz internationally >>



Doug,

This concerns me with the Euro being at record levels to the dollar and the British Pound at near alltime highs.
I have a feeling that these coins will hammer at record $$$ levels due primarily to these factors if European collectors have signifcant interest.

For now it is bad for US collectors like me .... but in the long run ????

I have my eye on a few gold coins that I hope I can stay in the hunt for without selling the farm but with significant overseas interest (bidding) it could be tough.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the coins I'm interested in are overlooked by the those collectors with big bank rolls >>



Conrad,

I hear you! This is certainly not the time for American darkside coin collectors to be having an auction like this, with our dollar in the toliet compared to others. I think not only is there very strong interest, the exchange rate being favorable to anyone but Americans, and the fact that they are showing up all under one auction, that the realized prices will go sky high. IF some of these ultra-rarities (pick one, there seem to be tons of them!) in this sale were sprinkled in different auctions, they may be cherrypicked better by Americans with good eyes; but with them all in one place with a giant "BUY ME" sign on them when you consider the website and the incredible catalogs, we are probably doomed to sit and watch..........

I have three i'm going after aggressively; and by that, I mean i'm willing to pay 2 1/2 - 3 times Krause but no more. I have a feeling that i'll be empty handed when the hammer falls.

Doogy

oh, and may I add. Ira must really want me to bid strong; i came home tonight to find the set of catalogs in my home mailbox too. I already had them sent to my office, so looks like i can have them in both places to ogle!

Resplandor

<< <i>oh, and may I add. Ira must really want me to bid strong; i came home tonight to find the set of catalogs in my home mailbox too. I already had them sent to my office, so looks like i can have them in both places to ogle! >>



Or you could share one with me

GDJMSP

<< <i>oh, and may I add. Ira must really want me to bid strong; i came home tonight to find the set of catalogs in my home mailbox too. I already had them sent to my office, so looks like i can have them in both places to ogle! >>



You too huh ? And here I thought I was the only one they did that to. Must be something to do with the name Doug - ya reckon ? ;-)

TwoKopeiki

I was wondering if I was going to get it all the way up here in Canada... Arrived yesterday and the coins are amazing.

WWW

These are very impressive catalogs. I will be hanging on to these.
The auctions will be interesting to watch. I suspect that they will
garner record prices for many of the coins.

Doogy

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<< <i>oh, and may I add. Ira must really want me to bid strong; i came home tonight to find the set of catalogs in my home mailbox too. I already had them sent to my office, so looks like i can have them in both places to ogle! >>



You too huh ? And here I thought I was the only one they did that to. Must be something to do with the name Doug - ya reckon ? ;-) >>




maybe we just have "high bidding sucker" plastered on our foreheads!

Doogy

when i find a couple hours, I'm gonna' have a giveaway to coincide with this auction.

I'll take the catalogs, and add the estimates up. I'll use the high estimate, as the low one seems way too low for many of these (which the Goldbergs seem to do often).

I'll create a thread and have people guess the final value, including buyer's fees, and the closest one wins a prize. should be fun to see how close we are to knowing our coins and the current market conditions!

Note: i'm talking about the value of the ENTIRE sale, to make it interesting. If some of you want to post that, and just for kicks, post a few others lots with your guesstimates for fun, that will be cool too!

Doug

coinkat

Mine came today...

wybrit

I received volumes I and III, but not the volume I was really interested in - II. I did poke around online and saw a nice Una but no British minors other than a couple of proofs. The 1864 proof halfcrown is very attractive.

farthing

I received Volume II on Tuesday, I believe. Volume I and III arrived today.

Amazing coins!

coinkat

I will say that reading the catalog and the experiences of numismatist that cataloged the British section (in terms of valuation and what is not rare) seem to differ from my experience... which I think is fine because it adds a different perspective

Hussulo

The coins in this auction are
Maybe I should just re-mortgage the house, but that may be a bridge to far and my wife may file for a divorce.

MrEureka

The catalogs are gorgeous and I'm looking forward to the sale. There are about a half dozen pieces that could end up in The Aki Museum of Numismatics. As for the rest, well, I guess they won't look bad in the showcase.

I do have one complaint about the catalogs, though. Much more could have been done to provide provenances. Although I understand that the coins were bought recently and it might seem counterproductive to help prospective bidders determine recent price history, it seems that the catalogers went overboard. I wonder if this will make bidders more nervous and less likely to bid?

RareSov

$295 is for the HARD cover version, limited to 100 copies. Signed by Larry & Ira

7Jaguars

What is the Aki Museum of Numismatics?

I like these coins but will not be bidding on any and will just be on the sidelines....Catalog nice.

Did anybody notice that there was an 1923 SA sov. on the 'bay within the last two days that seemed to use the illustration for the specimen for sale in the catalog? RareSov - is the one in the cat truly a "currency strike" as it could be a proof from the pictures since proof of this era many times were more of the specimen type and no cameo appearance?

MrEureka

RareSov - is the one in the cat truly a "currency strike" as it could be a proof from the pictures since proof of this era many times were more of the specimen type and no cameo appearance?

I bought the other Mintmaster 23-SA from the Terner sale, and it's definitely a business strike. The two coins are superb, but not even semi-PL.

MrEureka

What is the Aki Museum of Numismatics?

It's a private museum in New York. The genius behind the collection goes by the name Aki. Although he keeps a low profile - usually no more than 18" from the ground - he often visits local coins shows and auctions.

MacCrimmon

<< <i> What is the Aki Museum of Numismatics?

It's a private museum in New York. The genius behind the collection goes by the name Aki. Although he keeps a low profile - usually no more than 18" from the ground - he often visits local coins shows and auctions. >>






Doggedly collecting gold coins of the Central American Republic.



Doggedly, indeed.

7Jaguars

Mr. Eu - Hmmm, Mr. Aki sounds like a personal aquaintence (sp?).....What do you predict the '23 SA to go for?

Doogy

<< <i>Mr. Eu - Hmmm, Mr. Aki sounds like a personal aquaintence (sp?).....What do you predict the '23 SA to go for? >>




I'm going to bid about $12, maybe $15 if i can search under the couch cushions. stay away from my coin!

7Jaguars

Hey, I think we can collude on this - save me your next quarter you find under the couch and I won't bid!

MrEureka

SA is so hot right now that I'd be surprised to see the 23 sell for less than 20K hammer. Unfortunately, I sold mine long ago.

RareSov

It should fetch around double estimate, 20-25k

MILLENIA provenance will be a big selling point in years to come

7Jaguars

As per another thread, it seems that many of these coins are linked to Terner sale - are these retreads and/or is this a "new" Terner sale?

RareSov

Many were purchased from the Terner collection, some are noted as being bought "by private treaty"

Larry & Ira built the collection for a collector.. the cheque book was "open"

7Jaguars

Wow, some checkbook. Wonder how these things will ultimately fare & if the buyers will be more from overseas or will the purchased go to investors fleeing other markets?