MS63BN 1969-S Double Die Lincoln in April 16-19 Signature Sale. Opinions?

RBinTex

Why not in a PCGS holder already? Slight wear on the high point of the cheek bone? AU58 @PCGS? Ridiculous reserve?? Solid for the grade? Nice?

Personally I think PCGS would AU58 it. Heck, with that gouge accross the chin line they probably would "RYK" it (see U.S Coin Forum for allusion)

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66RB

My opinion is that I would love to own that coin, regardless of whose holder it is in or what it is graded.

From the photos it does look to be lightly circulated though...perhaps market graded?

ambro51

Just for a second imagine taking a quick look at your change back at the qwick-e-mart.......and seeing this coin in your hand.....................

sonofagunk

Wonder what it would cost to get PCGS to "pre-grade" it. They can go to the auction (they are already there doing walk throughs, look at the coin for bid, and tell you what they will grade it as. Can't be any different than crossing, just have them stop at breaking the case.

RBinTex

Paul,

It would SEEM to make ALOT of sense (and might be a great niche service to offer as well - just think of the possibilities of PCGS saying that coin "X" will grade "Y" when it is crossed. Could revolutionize the auction industry - at least in "big" coins) but I doubt they'd do you (or nearly anyone) THAT "favor".

On the other hand, don't you think they already know? Don't you think that there is AT LEAST ONE PCGS grader surreptitiously traveling around (&/or viewing at shows) to view auction lots to see what the rips are (i.e. which lots will upgrade either in value or in grade & value once it is in a PCGS holder?

Perhaps I'm a paranoid conspiracy theorist but they'd be CRAZY (or at least acting less than optimally as for their shareholders benefit) if they didn't - wouldn't they?

seanq

Looks to me like it went through NCS on the way to NGC. My grade would be AU58, and I agree with the previous post that the grade on the holder will mean almost nothing to the results of the auction.


Sean Reynolds

lloydmincy

I'll answer for you:

PCGS will not grade it. High reserve for something that is "not natural". Maybe high reserve because of the PCGS 64RD that sold for so much, and just "hoping". I think the grade is fair - if you just focus on "grade". Just has a lot of nicks, not wear. Believe me, I would want all of these to sky-rocket in price.

EagleEye

I have to agree that AU58 would be the proper grade. It looks like there is some kind of coating on it too.

fcloud

Nice coin. I wish it were mine, but MS -- Really? AU with all those hits on the obverse high points. Why don't I ever get gradesfive to ten point too high?

RBinTex

What a shocker - didn't make reserve.

BUT

Heritage has graciously allowed you to "Buy Now" for $69,000 of "Make an Offer".

Note that if you offer what it is REALLY worth - i.e. $20k or so - you'll get the below message from Heritage:

"While we appreciate this offer, we cannot accept anything less than $65,550."

DAM

What a shocker - didn't make reserve.

BUT

Heritage has graciously allowed you to "Buy Now" for $69,000 of "Make an Offer".

Note that if you offer what it is REALLY worth - i.e. $20k or so - you'll get the below message from Heritage:

"While we appreciate this offer, we cannot accept anything less than $65,550."



I've gotten the same message. And it never ceases to amaze me.

I've never understood how you can ask someone to make an offer, then counter that offer (if below the bottom line figure) with a minimum acceptable bid. Why not just list the minimum acceptable and skip the crap.

EagleEye

There are two properly graded MS-63RD examples on the market right now for just a tad more. one PCGS and a NGC.

RBinTex

Any pics or links Rick?

For a TRULY RED (PCGS) version, that price seems not out of line.

grip

<< <i>I have to agree that AU58 would be the proper grade. It looks like there is some kind of coating on it too. >>



.....I agree with the coating,looks glossy.


Al