For us Kennedy fan's - Updated New sets up - my set has been retired
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Received this today as I'm sure many of you did but thought I would share:
As I expected === Basic Circulation Strikes – no changes ??????? does this mean the ether/or will stay.
If it stays then when this go's into effect I will be deleting my Set. I have sent an E-mail for a clairification on this.
After much research and discussion, the registry committee has determined the final composites for the basic, major variety and complete variety sets for the Kennedy series. They are as follows:
1. Basic Circulation Strikes – no changes
2. Major Variety CS (current variety set)– In addition to the 1974-DDO which is already in the set, the following varieties will be added:
1964-D DDO FS-101
1964-D QDO FS-105
1964-D/D RMP FS-501 or FS-502
1972-D No “FG” FS-901
Satin Finish issues (as a result of poll of those members participating in this set)
3. Complete Variety CS (new set) – Will include all varieties PCGS grades.
4. Basic PR – The 1964 Accented Hair will become either/or in the 1964 slot. The 1981-S and 1982-S will become either/or for the Type 1 and Type 2’s.
5. Major Variety PR (new set) – Will include the following varieties:
1964 Accented Hair
1966 SMS No “FG” FS-901
1966 SMS DDO FS-103
1979-S Type 1
1979-S Type 2
1981-S Type 1
1981-S Type 2
6. Complete Variety PR (new set) – Will include all varieties PCGS grades.
These changes will take place in the next week or two.
NEW POLL
In addition, the registry committee would like to poll you on your feelings about the SMS coinage. Currently, the 1965, 1966, and 1967 SMS reside in the proof sets. This was a decision that was made back in 2001 by some of the major modern coin dealers when we first put up the sets and was made because the surface condition of those coins had some of the same characteristics as proofs and in those years, no proofs were minted. The 1998 SMS is in all of the Circulation Strike sets and the 1964 SMS will be in the complete CS set.
However, because the SMS coinage is technically neither circulation strike or proof, we would like to know if you would like all SMS coinage in both Circulation Strike and Proof sets. That would mean the 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1998 would be in all sets. The 1964 SMS would be in both the complete CS and the complete proof set. Please vote Yes to add or No to leave as is.
Dan
As I expected === Basic Circulation Strikes – no changes ??????? does this mean the ether/or will stay.
If it stays then when this go's into effect I will be deleting my Set. I have sent an E-mail for a clairification on this.
After much research and discussion, the registry committee has determined the final composites for the basic, major variety and complete variety sets for the Kennedy series. They are as follows:
1. Basic Circulation Strikes – no changes
2. Major Variety CS (current variety set)– In addition to the 1974-DDO which is already in the set, the following varieties will be added:
1964-D DDO FS-101
1964-D QDO FS-105
1964-D/D RMP FS-501 or FS-502
1972-D No “FG” FS-901
Satin Finish issues (as a result of poll of those members participating in this set)
3. Complete Variety CS (new set) – Will include all varieties PCGS grades.
4. Basic PR – The 1964 Accented Hair will become either/or in the 1964 slot. The 1981-S and 1982-S will become either/or for the Type 1 and Type 2’s.
5. Major Variety PR (new set) – Will include the following varieties:
1964 Accented Hair
1966 SMS No “FG” FS-901
1966 SMS DDO FS-103
1979-S Type 1
1979-S Type 2
1981-S Type 1
1981-S Type 2
6. Complete Variety PR (new set) – Will include all varieties PCGS grades.
These changes will take place in the next week or two.
NEW POLL
In addition, the registry committee would like to poll you on your feelings about the SMS coinage. Currently, the 1965, 1966, and 1967 SMS reside in the proof sets. This was a decision that was made back in 2001 by some of the major modern coin dealers when we first put up the sets and was made because the surface condition of those coins had some of the same characteristics as proofs and in those years, no proofs were minted. The 1998 SMS is in all of the Circulation Strike sets and the 1964 SMS will be in the complete CS set.
However, because the SMS coinage is technically neither circulation strike or proof, we would like to know if you would like all SMS coinage in both Circulation Strike and Proof sets. That would mean the 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1998 would be in all sets. The 1964 SMS would be in both the complete CS and the complete proof set. Please vote Yes to add or No to leave as is.
Dan
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<< <i>Care to share? >>
WHAT?
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<< <i>you know were I stand. >>
I share your thinking on the Basic Circulation Strike Sets Dan. But... Having now been screwed out of finishing my clad set, started years ago. I think I'll hang around until my membership is up, then remove my sets, and get the he** out of Dodge.
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<< <i>you know were I stand. >>
I share your thinking on the Basic Circulation Strike Sets Dan. But... Having now been screwed out of finishing my clad set, started years ago. I think I'll hang around until my membership is up, then remove my sets, and get the he** out of Dodge. >>
It is a shame that some Collectors feel or are being forced out of the Registry. Below is part of my response to BJ's recent poll question.
I will make the point that there are several collectors that only want the “business strike” or “regular strike” (non satin finish) coins from 2005 – present in their “basic sets. PCGS has allowed this for the “Statehood Washington Quarters, Circulation Strikes” so why not for other denominations. It could easily be accomplished by having two “Basic” sets in the Registry, one for “Satin Finish” and the other for “Business Strikes”. This way the collector could decide which way he / she want to put their sets together and have their sets compared to as they say, “apples to apples and oranges to oranges, not apples to oranges”.
JMHO,
Tim
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Circulation Strike sets should be comprised of coins normally found in circulation.
No SF, no SMS, etc.
SF, SMS, Type 2's & 3's are varieties, and can be added to a variety set.
DDO, DDR, TDO, etc. are errors and there should be another set to include those. Yes an Error set.
I am torn on 'Complete Sets' as I like to 'compete' in those, but I would hate to have to buy every stinking Circ., Variety, & Error to complete a set.
And I too am having second thoughts about continuing to complete in Complete Sets because now I have to collect both non-SF & SF to finish those.
Is PCGS to blame or the mint?
But at least I was able to find a litely toned MS66FBL Franklin yesterday.
And Dan my Basic set is all BUSINESS STRIKE COINS too.
The changed the state quarter basic set and half of the collectors are pissed they made them go out and buy coins since many that were allowed before are now no longer allowed. On the sets where they left the basic set alone, (nickels, halfs, and I think dimes as well) collectors are pissed because they want a business strike only set like the state quarters.
I am still wondering why the didn't leave the existing set alone, and then create a business strike only set.
Seems this would have made everyone happy. Not like they cannot create new sets, I think my one set of Jefferson's are in at least a dozen different Jefferson registry sets.
When my Lincoln proof set added things like the 1960 large date/small date variety, I had the choice to include it in my collection or not. My desire for "completion" resulted in my spending the money to get the coin. Nobody forced me to do it. I WANTED the major varieties since I already owned many of them. I could have been satisfied with the basic proof set but I wasn't. I could have set up "across the street" but I'm a PCGS collector.
Everyone of us has his or her "idea" of what a particular collection should be. Someone (in this case PCGS) has to set the rules. We may not like them, but we can either "adjust" to them or ignore them. JMHO. Steve
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<< <i>The 1998 SMS is in all of the Circulation Strike sets and the 1964 SMS will be in the complete CS set. >>
I think that I for one have come up with my answer to the Poll. "Neither".
My thought is that the 1964 SMS is a pattern, and lets get real there are not enouph of them available to even fill the top five slots.
The 1998-S is a Commerative coin and should be put in the Half Dollar commerative set, just like the dollar coin is in the Dollar commerative set. Neither of these coins was ever ment to circulate they are just collector commens.
Just my quick thoughts on the issue, as I am on my way out to take care of chores on needed day off from the job.
Dan
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But I will say they should make a set for you guys for BS coins only if that is what you want. They usually will create any set we ask for. I don't know what the deal is with the satin coins.
I WISH THE MINT HAD NEVER STARTED MAKING THE D*M SATIN SH*T.!!
JMHO