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From the PCGS web page:

Current Approximate Turnaround Times

World Services:
50 business days


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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, not sending anything to them anytime soon... Although I do appreciate the honesty image

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope that means they have more business....if so they should look for another world grader.
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  • ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    When I see a company that can't keep up with the demand for their product, I think of one of two things....
    #1 - There product is the best out there and they want to keep it that way. They don't try to keep growing to the point that their company gets too big and they can't keep their level of quality. OR
    #2 - They don't want to spend the money to grow and therefore keep falling behind. This in turn will lower their quality of service.
    Since I don't use PCGS I will have to ask others what they think the outcome will be. I will say that I had a good and bad experience with PCGS (Both are the same incident).
    I bought a First Strike Silver Eagle in a PCGS slab a while back. When I got it it was fine. After a while it began to have milkspotting on it. I called PCGS and explained to them what had happened. Eventhough I was not a PCGS member, nor was I the one that had the coin graded, they told me they would send me a spot review submission form and to send them the coin. I thanked them and waited. Well several weeks, then months, went by and I did not receive my form. I was figuring they were busy and I would eventually get it. I finally called them back the other day and asked if I could get a form. The lady looked up my name and saw where I was suppossed to be sent the form but never was. She advised it would be here within 4 to 5 days. So far I can't complain with their customer service. I have sent one coin to be graded, had my local dealer take a coin to NGC at the Miami show, so my experiences with grading services is limited. The company that looked at my other coin advised my dealer that the coin was authentic but had been cleaned. I have yet to figure this one out.... eithey way, it's real...that's all I really cared about. Now, having said all of that, I am looking for a grading service to start using. I have found that I like ANACS because they don't require a membership fee for sending in coins. I guess there is good and bad to that. As far as holder's go I like the ANACS, NGC, and even the SEGS holders that I have seen, but that alone will not affect which one I go with. I posted a few days ago about SEGS and asking opinions about them (and finding out that I should probably stay clear for now). I just want a company that is honest, reasonable prices, looks after their customers, and is respected in the business. I guess to some extent they all have these qualities, depending on who you ask.
    Back to the original post... I guess 50 day turn around wouldn't be bad if they lowered the price of the submission. If the price stays the same and the time gets longer, then that isn't good.
    Todd
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many graders does PCGS have for World coins? One? (Ron Guth)

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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭
    That's why I went ATS with my last submission. I had six 18th and 19th C. pieces I wanted graded. 6 days total for standard World.
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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭
    My last submission was logged in on 2/25/08 and shipped on 3/28/08. Not bad image -Preussen
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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭
    image I've got 3 submissions (regular, economy, and crossover) all received on 4/2/08. Looks like I'll get them back in June.
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have two in right now:

    Economy entered 3/6/08
    Modern entered 3/28/08

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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How many graders does PCGS have for World coins? One? (Ron Guth) >>




    I don't think that Ron grades at all. I'm guessing of course, but with all that travelling he does to various shows etc, and all the novelties that PCGS has been introducing ever since he took the job, I doubt that he has any spare time to grade.


    50 days eh? You should be now entitled to a few courtesy free vouchers.
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No more free grading vouchers from PCGS. They did away with those.

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  • ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    Hrmm, sounds like customer service is going down.... I think that these changeds by PCGS will help the other companies to gain more business. I know mine will go elsewhere (unless someone gives good reasons why). It seems that PCGS coins go for no more than ANACS, NGC, and others on ebay....
    Todd
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How many graders does PCGS have for World coins? One? (Ron Guth) >>

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>How many graders does PCGS have for World coins? One? (Ron Guth) >>



    Hmmmm? Don't know. If Ron wants to sign me to a 5-year, no cut deal at $300k+ per year, I'll be there next week. image

    Then, you guys can let me know when you're sending World submissions to be graded, and I can then have purchasing order plenty of extra bodybag supplies!! imageimageimage


    BTW, anybody ever beat my record of 126 days from P.O to P.O. ?
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's not a record I want to beat, Mac image

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's not a record I want to beat, Mac >>


    With your luck at PCGS, you probably will beat it. image

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The can't hold my coins for 150 days, if they don't have any of my coins to hold, Don image

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>That's not a record I want to beat, Mac >>


    With your luck at PCGS, you probably will beat it. image >>



    Here's that submission.....at least it's been a few years; and, it's hard for me to find Swiss in those quantities or quality anymore......image

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    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 21303427 884157 1908 B 1 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    2 1 21303428 884792 1914 B 2 Rap SWISS MS66RD
    3 1 21303429 884828 1932 B 2 Rap SWISS MS66RD
    4 1 21303430 884975 1934 B 2 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    5 1 21303431 884984 1938 B 2 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    6 1 21303432 885186 1894 B 5 Rap SWISS MS67
    7 1 21303433 885194 1902 B 5 Rap SWISS MS66
    8 1 21303434 885213 1922 B 5 Rap SWISS MS66
    9 1 21303435 885350 1928 B 5 Rap SWISS SP67
    10 1 21303436 885367 1946 B 5 Rap SWISS SP67
    11 1 21303437 885374 1953 B 5 Rap SWISS SP68
    12 1 21303438 885453 1871 B 10 Rap SWISS MS65
    13 1 21303439 885613 1909 B 10 Rap SWISS SP68
    14 1 21303440 885638 1938 B 10 Rap SWISS SP67
    15 1 21303441 885888 1936 B 20 Rap SWISS SP67
    16 1 21303442 885898 1953 B 20 Rap SWISS SP67
    17 1 21303443 886129 1945 B 1/2 Fr SWISS SP67
    18 1 21303444 886237 1903 B 1 Fr SWISS MS66

    Total Items: 18

    Date Received: 6/16/2003

    Date Shipped: 10/7/2003

    Order Status: Shipped


    P.S. That 1871 10 rappen was undergraded by at least a point. image
  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Then they'll probably hold mine that long.

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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>That's not a record I want to beat, Mac >>


    With your luck at PCGS, you probably will beat it. image >>



    Here's that submission.....at least it's been a few years; and, it's hard for me to find Swiss in those quantities or quality anymore......image

    ==============================

    Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
    1 1 21303427 884157 1908 B 1 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    2 1 21303428 884792 1914 B 2 Rap SWISS MS66RD
    3 1 21303429 884828 1932 B 2 Rap SWISS MS66RD
    4 1 21303430 884975 1934 B 2 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    5 1 21303431 884984 1938 B 2 Rap SWISS SP66RD
    6 1 21303432 885186 1894 B 5 Rap SWISS MS67
    7 1 21303433 885194 1902 B 5 Rap SWISS MS66
    8 1 21303434 885213 1922 B 5 Rap SWISS MS66
    9 1 21303435 885350 1928 B 5 Rap SWISS SP67
    10 1 21303436 885367 1946 B 5 Rap SWISS SP67
    11 1 21303437 885374 1953 B 5 Rap SWISS SP68
    12 1 21303438 885453 1871 B 10 Rap SWISS MS65
    13 1 21303439 885613 1909 B 10 Rap SWISS SP68
    14 1 21303440 885638 1938 B 10 Rap SWISS SP67
    15 1 21303441 885888 1936 B 20 Rap SWISS SP67
    16 1 21303442 885898 1953 B 20 Rap SWISS SP67
    17 1 21303443 886129 1945 B 1/2 Fr SWISS SP67
    18 1 21303444 886237 1903 B 1 Fr SWISS MS66

    Total Items: 18

    Date Received: 6/16/2003

    Date Shipped: 10/7/2003

    Order Status: Shipped


    P.S. That 1871 10 rappen was undergraded by at least a point. image >>








    ....speechless...imageimage Judging from the grades, there are several stunning pieces here Mac, congrats!


    I've noticed that you did not ask for TrueView this time, I was looking for the 1903 franc's image, before the other Swiss loving wolves attack it. image

    PS: And no John, owning a 1903 half franc is not a good excuse for priority on the franc of the same date. Besides you should wait for a 67 to pair it up with the half. image
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    D, that was a submission from 2003.


    Sadly, all are long gone image save the lovely 1871 10Rp. image
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    That will teach me to make plans when coinlieutenant isn't around. imageimageimage


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    That 1903 franc sure sounded nice.


    Sadly, all are long gone save the lovely 1871 10Rp.


    With this 1876 10 Rp, it's hard to envy any other of the type, still in my precious Swiss box of 20 of course, here imaged by Mac. image



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    And GemWorldCoins's pretty 1916 5F looks more and more tempting all of a sudden, here imaged by Mark Goodman. Welcome to the forum GemWorldCoins. image



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