Real or fake error...and why

Blackhawk

Take a look at this Canadian large cent. The reverse alignment is as shown in the photos. Is this error real or fake, and what made you come to that conclusion?

StrikeOutXXX

My initial thoughts would be a fake vise/press job. Put a blank planchet or a worn down one and pressed it between two different large cents to incuse the images into it. Might have been heated up a bit to soften it, but not sure.

1960NYGiants

I agree with StrikeOut: I can't see how a die clash would be so severe as to transfer the designs from obv to rev dies without shattering them.

Something stinks with that one

Blackhawk

But look, the obverse type matches the reverse. I wonder if there is any way that this could have happened at the mint?

1960NYGiants

Another one for the CCRS crew?

Blackhawk

<< <i>Another one for the CCRS crew? >>



Whenever I visit there, I get the impression that it's somewhat of a closed society. Maybe that's not true, but it feels that way to me.

StrikeOutXXX

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But look, the obverse type matches the reverse. I wonder if there is any way that this could have happened at the mint? >>



The only scenario I could see that really happening at the mint is if the planchet was struck through a retained cent on both dies.

I've seen some seriously clashed dies, but they usually retain some of the original design, and would show both obv/rev on them (Like Gene said, they would shatter first), but a complete swap of design during the clash would be impossible. Even if that was somehow the case, the devices on the coin would still be raised, not incuse.

You can see the fin on the pseudo-obverse pretty much indicating something was pressed down into it, just slightly off-center.

PM Mike Diamond (President of CONECA) (errormaven on here), he's always given me PM's or posted to the thread if I give him a link, but he doesn't frequent the world coin board.

CaptHenway

The chances of a double brockage being infinitesimal, I would say a fake error made by pressing two coins into a blank disk. Probably made when these were in circulation.
TD