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HK-413 / Know why NGC will not grade this example?

DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
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I do. image

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it's got some serious damage on the reverse.

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  • SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭
    I just noticed that HK-413 is not on the list at NGC ?
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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unfortunate, but doesn't matter as much as it would for a common piece. Anyone who understands how rare that it would still be willing to pay a hefty sum for it.
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    SUMORADA and jonathanb are both correct. This one originally sold for $700+ and was sent to NGC for grading . Results were, plaunchet flaw 7:00 reverse. Makes me wonder if NGC has graded none, then how can they be certain it is a plaunchet flaw? Could it be a flaw in the dies themselfs? image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could it be a flaw in the dies themselfs? >>

    Assuming the picture is accurate, no, it couldn't. That's post-mint damage.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    C'mon man. I just ate my lunch!!

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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Could it be a flaw in the dies themselfs? >>

    Assuming the picture is accurate, no, it couldn't. That's post-mint damage. >>



    Seems you dissagree with NGC as plaunchet flaw, very interesting. image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks to me that the planchet flaw is a deep lamination.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Looks like a nice pocket piece. image

    I really wish TPG's would give a better explanation with more detail when something does not get slabbed. image
  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I did give a "if the picture is accurate" caveat, but the picture shows metal that was "pushed up" next to the areas that were "scraped down". Look particularly at the O in COMMERCE (metal pushed towards the center of the O) and the circular ring more or less directly below it (metal pushed towards the center of the coin).

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