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You old people have corrupted me....

As I said in my thread the other day I'm going to try and start picking up more vintage cards. Who knew that these cards would be what I spent my ebay gift certificate on?!

Like most of you guys that start sets after busting some Topps Heritage, I didn't know cards like these existed until Bowman Heritage included modern day versions as boxtoppers. I liked the way that those looked but figured that the real versions would be too expensive so I never bothered looking on ebay...until today.

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ALL for just under $60 and that's including the shipping.

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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Nice Goot, and they present well for lower grades too!


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice pickups.

    Old? I remember when I was drafted - right out of High School - we had a guy named Harry in our platoon - he looked old - we asked him how old he was? He said 27. Every one went wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

    So, I'm guessin you've got me about 3 synaptic connections away from senility and "Depends?" image

    Thanx for sharing.
    mike
    Mike
  • I had never ecen seen those till someone (BoSox I think?) made the thread about it last week.

    I really like those and I've thought about picking up a couple myself.

    Congratulatinos on the new addtions to your PC and thanks for sharing!
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice going Goot, and a hall of famer too. Personally, I think the Red Man issues look better in the SGC holders.
  • ElemenopeoElemenopeo Posts: 2,577 ✭✭
    I think your taste in cards is improving. image
  • Congrats on the new collection direction. I have been dabbling in vintage baseball as of late, and have found I have been all over the place in my pick ups since there are so many cool cards out there.


  • << <i>Nice Goot, and they present well for lower grades too!


    Steve >>



    Thanks. I'm not sure if it's the smaller scans or maybe some damage on the back, but they look fine to me for being lower grades. I do know that I can't wait for them to get here along with my '58 Spahn All Star card!


    I got "The Shot Heard Around the World", a HOFer from my favorite team and one of the best lefties of all time as well as the 1952 NL Rookie of the Year who was a Negro League star before breaking through the bigs.
  • baseballjeffbaseballjeff Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭
    Yay! We've got another vintage card collector! You'll never buy that modern junk again! image
  • Those look great !

    You can't go wrong with vintage - regardless of the grading.

    "The eye is better than the number."

    Love that Joe Black.
  • I don't want to get my thread off topic, but I have to say that Warren Spahn is easily one, if not THE most underrated player of all time and especially in the card market.

    363 wins, top 3 in Cy Young voting 5 times (and that's even after it was introduced half way through his career when he was in his mid 30s) , 6th most shutouts and a 14 time all star. Plus he went 23-7 in 1963 at the age of 42 while throwing 22 complete games (I know, different times but at that age it's an amazing stat.)

    And people spend all that money on Joba refractors while these can be had for a fraction of the price.....

    I SEE THE LIGHT! image


  • << <i>Yay! We've got another vintage card collector! You'll never buy that modern junk again! image >>



    To be honest, other than Chipper, Carl Crawford and some of my other favorites, I probably won't.

    When's the party to celebrate my baptism?


  • << <i>I don't want to get my thread off topic, but I have to say that Warren Spahn is easily one, if not THE most underrated player of all time and especially in the card market.

    363 wins, top 3 in Cy Young voting 5 times (and that's even after it was introduced half way through his career when he was in his mid 30s) , 6th most shutouts and a 14 time all star. Plus he went 23-7 in 1963 at the age of 42 while throwing 22 complete games (I know, different times but at that age it's an amazing stat.)

    And people spend all that money on Joba refractors while these can be had for a fraction of the price.....

    I SEE THE LIGHT! image >>



    How can you see the light when you just crossed over to the dark side?

    Agree with you on Spahn. Great cards! Welcome to the dark side!
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  • ElemenopeoElemenopeo Posts: 2,577 ✭✭


    Wooooohh!
  • cwazzycwazzy Posts: 3,257
    Nice pickups, Goot! The Black is really an ugly card but that one presents very well! I'm rather partial to the old Brooklyn cards.

    Chris
    Chris
    My small collection
    Want List:
    '61 Topps Roy Campanella in PSA 5-7
    Cardinal T206 cards
    Adam Wainwright GU Jersey
  • Joe Black = SOLID!

    Yep, nothing beats vintage.
    There's a hole in my head where the rain comes in.


  • << <i>Nice pickups, Goot! The Black is really an ugly card but that one presents very well! I'm rather partial to the old Brooklyn cards.

    Chris >>



    "Hey, that card you have is normally repulsive but yours isn't too bad."

    Nah I'm just messing with you, I understand what you're saying. I find myself growing more partial to the Brooklyn cards myself. I guess spending a lot of time at Dodgertown will do that to you though.

    Do you have any of these Red Man's? If so, feel free to post them! I saw the '52 Snider and it's a sharp looking card.
  • Beautiful cards Goot! Congrats
    3000 Hit CLub signed ball - 8/19 Living Members
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  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    Very cool entry into the vintage, Goot! Once that vintage bug bites you, the modern stuff seems boring. It's only a matter of time before you are cutting your hair and talking about walking to school uphill... in the snow... both ways... without feet, because you couldn't afford them!

    Snorto~
  • By the way, this is the modern Bowman Heritage version that I noted before. Sorry about the glare spots/ripples, it's still in it's cellophane wrapper.

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  • << <i>By the way, this is the modern Bowman Heritage version that I noted before. Sorry about the glare spots/ripples, it's still in it's cellophane wrapper. >>



    No write-up on the front like the real Red Mans???

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  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    That is definitely a great issue. Another really nice, and extremely reasonable in NM and better, is the 1964 Topps Giants set. The Mantle in 7 can be had for just a few $10 bills.
    Collector of most things Frank Thomas. www.BigHurtHOF.com


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    << <i>By the way, this is the modern Bowman Heritage version that I noted before. Sorry about the glare spots/ripples, it's still in it's cellophane wrapper. >>



    No write-up on the front like the real Red Mans???

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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. After reading others online, Delmon's would go somethin like this...

    "Delmon broke into the majors in late 2006 after being the Rays number one prospect two years in a row. He batted .317 with 3 home runs in just 30 games. His best performance came when he hit a walk-off home run to defeat the Chicago White Sox. Young was drafted number one overall in the 2003 draft and born in Montgomery, Alabama. He is the younger brother of Nationals first baseman, Dmitri Young."

    Better? image

    By the way Gotsparks, your set of 55's is amazing. I probably won't go after the set (at least as of right now) but I will probably add a few more Braves, Dodgers or stars that I can find for a reasonable price no matter what the grade is really.
  • A related story - I met a guy at a PSA event in California about 5 years ago who knew Joe Black. He's was Joe's student. Not a baseball camp or minor leagues, but in high school. That's right, Joe Black was a high school teacher during his playing days on the Dodgers because being a pro ballplayer didn't pay enough.
    1964 stand ups
    1975 mini's
    1954 Wilson Franks
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    <Old? I remember when I was drafted - right out of High School - we had a guy named Harry in our platoon - he looked old - we asked him how old he was? He said 27. Every one went wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!>

    haaaaaaaaaaaaa-aint that the truth-at least ya made it thru high school mike,i went to 8th grade and ran off to jersey and worked construction when i was 16
    with a all black crew-they were a riot- i was "whitey"
    i signed up when i was 17,knewi was gonna get drafted anyways image
    construction wasnt my thing i found destruction was much funner
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't want to get my thread off topic, but I have to say that Warren Spahn is easily one, if not THE most underrated player of all time and especially in the card market.

    363 wins, top 3 in Cy Young voting 5 times (and that's even after it was introduced half way through his career when he was in his mid 30s) , 6th most shutouts and a 14 time all star. Plus he went 23-7 in 1963 at the age of 42 while throwing 22 complete games (I know, different times but at that age it's an amazing stat.)

    And people spend all that money on Joba refractors while these can be had for a fraction of the price.....

    I SEE THE LIGHT! image >>

    Every Braves fan should own at least one Spahn card image

    If the Cy Young had been around his whole career, awarded like it is now (i.e., one for each league), most Baseball historians think he would have won four others (1949, 1953, 1958 and 1961) in addition to the one he won in 1957.
  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭✭
    Goot- cool. I'm probably around your age (I'm in college)
    I started out collecting modern cards because I watch modern players, but I collect vintage cards now because the challenge, and the value they will likely hold.
    John
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • fkwfkw Posts: 1,766 ✭✭
    Vintage is cheap if you know how to shop....

    You can pick up playing day era cards of every single Hall of Famer who played from 1900-1960 for less than $75 ea. (Except Wagner, $150)

    Babe Ruth for $30 (1933 Sanella)

    Ty Cobb for about $50-$75 in VG (many of the W issues of 1919-1926)

    Hans Wagner $150 (1913 WG5 or WG6)

    Napoleon Lajoie $15 (1913 Parker Bros.)

    Tris Speaker $25 (1920's W issues)

    Rogers Hornsby $15 (1931 W517)

    Mathewson $50-$75 (1919-20s W cards, or 1913 WG5/6)

    Walter Johnson (same as above)

    etc.

    Actually the only players that will cost way more are a few not in the HOF and Negro Leaguers...

    Ernie Nevers $400+ (football HOFer, scored 6 TDs in one game)
    Joe Jackson $500+
    Jim Thorpe $2000++
    Jimmy Claxton 1916 E137 $4000++ (1st black to play pro baseball in a white league, 31 years before Jackie Robinson)


  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭
    once you go vintage you never go back!!!!

    welcome, i agree i can't see paying all that money for a new card of a guy that may not be around in 3-4 years, good luck
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Very nice Goot! I have been workin gon the 54 Redman set for a few years now, and I think they are some of the most beautiful cards ever made, aside from the t3's image
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the dark side, my young long haired grasshopper.

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    But seriously, you can still enjoy modern collecting... Especially when you see your 30-day eBay total go through the roof on vintage product. image

    Congrats on the purchase image
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • nightcrawlernightcrawler Posts: 5,110 ✭✭
    Deadly... I've never seen them before, but they're epic. image

    I totally disagree with Nick about the holder, PSA holders all the way for me. I like my holders light and lean.

    And further, it's not easy to make me feel old these days... I have fire crackers. image


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    But seriously, you can still enjoy modern collecting... Especially when you see your 30-day eBay total go through the roof on vintage product. image
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    Oh yeah I'm just going to focus more now. I'll have my Chipper, Crawford, Kazmir and some other favorites but will focus on autos like I have tried to so far. Before I was semi focused between the Braves, Rays and a few affordable Dodgers autos and MAYBE nice game used/patch cards, but my player selection wasn't too genius although it was all the cheap kind of stuff (Chuck James anyone?).

    The expense is why I waited for the gift certificate to make these purchases. The expense is kinda worth it in the end though considering the fact that Warren Spahn will never lose value while Joba (not that I touched ANY of that crap) might blow out his arm tomorrow. I just don't have the funds to gamble like that and even if I did, I'm not sure I'd do it as often as some of the idiots on the beckett boards do. I guess you collect what you like though.

    Edit: My Spahn 1958 topps All Star card graded a PSA 6 came in today. It's slightly OC and has a minor print spot on Spahn's chest but for $15, I'll take it.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The expense is kinda worth it in the end though considering the fact that Warren Spahn will never lose value while Joba (not that I touched ANY of that crap) might blow out his arm tomorrow. >>



    You never know, Spahnny could fund a dog fighting venture, shoot a doorman, run over a meter maid, and then make it rain in a topless joint.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>

    << <i>The expense is kinda worth it in the end though considering the fact that Warren Spahn will never lose value while Joba (not that I touched ANY of that crap) might blow out his arm tomorrow. >>



    You never know, Spahnny could fund a dog fighting venture, shoot a doorman, run over a meter maid, and then make it rain in a topless joint.

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    I don't think God allows those things upstairs.... image
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image You can NEVER go wrong with Vintage!! I started out with modern stuff - 86 & 87 Topps image back in the day! But after picking up my first Beckett and looking at the older cards I was immediately hooked, stick with what you can afford and have fun Goot!
  • BigDaddyBowmanBigDaddyBowman Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭
    Goot-
    What took you so darn long to cross over to right side of the street?
    Now all you have to do is get into vintage football...then you will be truly a wise old fart like us!


    Welcome to the world of vintage......no better place to be in the Collectors Universe!

  • Nice pickups for less than $60. Vintage is the only way to go. Who needs 500 different cards in the same year of LeBron, Arod, etc, etc. Give me one Wade Blasingame or Harvey Kuenn rookie and I'm a happy camper!!
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,916 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Goot-
    What took you so darn long to cross over to right side of the street?
    Now all you have to do is get into vintage football...then you will be truly a wise old fart like us!


    Welcome to the world of vintage......no better place to be in the Collectors Universe! >>



    Goot, Seriously listen to what I have to say here... BigDaddyBowman and Stown got me HOOKED on Vintage Football so beware their influence!


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  • << <i>

    << <i>Goot-
    What took you so darn long to cross over to right side of the street?
    Now all you have to do is get into vintage football...then you will be truly a wise old fart like us!


    Welcome to the world of vintage......no better place to be in the Collectors Universe! >>



    Goot, Seriously listen to what I have to say here... BigDaddyBowman and Stown got me HOOKED on Vintage Football so beware their influence!


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    Yeah I've seen your past few weeks in the Mail call thread, it's primarily football coming from you now. But sorry guys I won't be joining you. I'm not too great with football history and while I know I could learn pretty easily, I think I'll stick with what I know.....and that's baseball. I could tell you who Ed Roebuck or Johnny Logan are and give you stats before I could name almost any football guys from the 70s and before besides the obvious like Bradshaw.

    Oh yeah, cheap BIN's = payment sent image I know it's not amazing condition, but I figured stuff like this would be much more expensive than the $8 I paid for it.

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    Another Braves Hall of Fame member (the actual Braves HOF, not the one in Cooperstown). It probably doesn't seem like a very organized or difficult set for many of you but my goal is to pick up a nice looking graded card of each member of the Braves Hall of Fame (If applicable) for a nice and affordable cost.

    So far I have a Spahn '58 A.S. card graded a 6 as well as the Red Man Spahn and now this Crandall.

    What I need are cards of: Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron (this is gonna be tough and will probably be the last card I get because I want a decent one), Niekro, Dale Murphy, Lew Burdette, Ernie Johnson (played in 50s for MIL and then announced for 30somethin years), John Sain, Tommy Holmes, Kid Nichols (graded modern card?), Ralph Garr and David Justice.

    Maybe I could knock out the Mathews/Aaron with the '59 Topps Fence Busters card in like a 4 or something reasonably priced. This should be fun...image
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But sorry guys I won't be joining you. >>



    You know, I started out with baseball too.

    MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice Crandall.

    << <i>What I need are cards of: Eddie Mathews, Hank Aaron (this is gonna be tough and will probably be the last card I get because I want a decent one), Niekro, Dale Murphy, Lew Burdette, Ernie Johnson (played in 50s for MIL and then announced for 30somethin years), John Sain, Tommy Holmes, Kid Nichols (graded modern card?), Ralph Garr and David Justice. >>


    Just don't sell any of your Smoltz, Chipper or Glavine stuff, because they'll be up on that outfield wall too, just as soon as they retire.


  • << <i>

    << <i>But sorry guys I won't be joining you. >>



    You know, I started out with baseball too.

    MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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    image Hey, ya never know. I doubt it though because I have baseball runnin through these vains!

    What do you guys think about my idea for getting cards of the Braves HOFers? Nothin too hard or too costly except for Aaron and Mathews and I'll try for most of it in mid grade other than stuff like the Niekro, Justice and Murphy which will probably be in the 8-10 range. I'm looking forward to this little project. I'll probably take my time with it though and continue to pick up some other random vintage cards like Red Man's or somethin. We'll just have to wait and see!




    << <i> Just don't sell any of your Smoltz, Chipper or Glavine stuff, because they'll be up on that outfield wall too, just as soon as they retire. >>



    No worries about that. I currently have a rookie for each player in 9 and 2 Chipper's (Bowman and Topps). Don't forget Maddux though!
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you guys think about my idea for getting cards of the Braves HOFers? >>



    You do whatever you want to do.

    That's the beauty in vintage. They can't go 5-5 with 5 grand slams the night before.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts


  • << <i>

    << <i>What do you guys think about my idea for getting cards of the Braves HOFers? >>



    You do whatever you want to do.

    That's the beauty in vintage. They can't go 5-5 with 5 grand slams the night before.

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    Ahh, very true. The more and more I get into this, the more and more I understand why you guys like it.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This one has a few creases Goot, but if you want it until you get a graded one, just PM me your address and it's yours.

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  • AhmanfanAhmanfan Posts: 4,395 ✭✭✭✭
    Goot, you don't HAVE to collect vintage football (although it's fun and a great value). there is also vintage basketball =-)
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    John
    Collecting
    HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Not to steal your thunder, but here is a couple of my 54's I am about 70% of the way there



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  • << <i>Not to steal your thunder, but here is a couple of my 54's I am about 70% of the way there
    >>



    No worries, I love to see these cards. The Mathews and Snider will probably be the next two cards I try to get if they stay in my price range (PSA 3-5). I actually narrowly missed out on the 54 Snider in a 4. It went for something like $23 and my max was $20 since I have no real idea what they go for and there aren't too many in the completed auction section. I picked up the Black AND Thomson with the extra $25 I had since I lost out on the Snider.

    Edit: There's also a Spahn '55 Red Man on the bay that ends in a couple days. It's only graded a 2 but the scan looks nice. If it goes for as cheap as I think it will, I might just pick it up. The thing that I'm liking about this vintage viewpoint, is that there seems to be no rush in buying. You don't have to be afraid that their prices will jump the next week because they hit .390 in the month of April. Everything stays relatively the same, especially the kind of stuff I'll be going after.
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    One of the blessings of the Registry is it gets some people chasing the GPA instead of eye appeal (buying the slab and not the card), which means there are bargains to be had on some nice looking, low grade cards.

    Vintage certainly does have its advantages, as you are discovering. The only thing I personally miss about the modern market is ripping wax... erm... foil at break neck speed.

    Snorto~
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