PCGS MS 69 1996 W Dime Going To eBay Thursday Night
MovieMan
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Hi, I just wanted to give who ever may be interested a "Heads-Up" that I am going to be placing my PCGS MS69 1996 W Dime on eBay this coming Thursday ( 3/27 ). I don't have an auction number just yet. I will have high resolution scans of it early next week.
Current Pop on this coin is 5.
It is in an old Green Label holder, and has a uniform light golden hue.
Please PM me if you have any questions.
Current Pop on this coin is 5.
It is in an old Green Label holder, and has a uniform light golden hue.
Please PM me if you have any questions.
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The '96-W comes nice but usually that means 65 or 66 rather than MS-69.
I think it's an underrated coin in ANY condition.
We must know this, and as sure as I'm typing this I just KNOW Dimeman is biting his fingernails waiting for your response!
Later, Paul.
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WOW!
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have to be resubmitted for regrade to get the FB added. 96W's come well struck and most
have full bands.
My 96-W is a 68 I think. I don't know if it has bands or not to tell the truth. The pic looks to have them, but it's not on the holder and I for got to look
If mine is worth a bunch of money someone let me know so I can sell it and buy something really neat like a barber or seated dime
<< <i>Regrade: Use the "Regrade" service for coins previously graded by PCGS that you feel might be worthy of a higher grade. Submit the coins in the holder. We guarantee that the coins will not be downgraded. >>
Or is it that the costs have been raised?
<< <i>Paul, Even if the coin was FB PCGS eliminated thier designation review and the coin would
have to be resubmitted for regrade to get the FB added. 96W's come well struck and most
have full bands. >>
So are you saying in general that I will never be able to buy a Roosie that is already graded and send it to get the FB for worry that they will turn right around and de-grade the coin? I think the statement that Dan60 has in his post is right on. PCGS should regrade the coin and garantee the grade, and when they re-grade the coin they can put FB on the holder.
I feel the designation review technically is not there, but is re-named "re-grade." Its just another way to get twice as much $$$ then they were getting.
Also, I would have to agree to disagree Nick, because I have seen Hundreds of 1996-W Dimes and not all, yes most, but not all have FB, and yes even the higher graded ones too. I used to own an MS68 that did not qualify for FB's
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
as if it were raw. Example.....The above mentioned 1996W. Let's assume it is FB but was originally
graded before the FB designation. The coin is sent in for regrade and it regrades at 68FB. PC will
then put it back in the 69 non-FB holder. If the coin is a liner there is a good chance the coin would
regrade 68 and stay in the 69 holder. How many 69's do you know of that would regrade 69 every time it was sent in. I
mean where the 69 grade is a top pop and no 70's exist.
Dan, What ever happened with your 05D MS68 you said was FB. Did PC ever add the FB designation to it?.
""So are you saying in general that I will never be able to buy a Roosie that is already graded and send it to get the FB for worry that they will turn right around and de-grade the coin?""
No, I am not saying that. If the coin regrades lower with the FB designation PC will guarantee the original non-FB grade and reholder it
with out the FB designation at the higher grade.
""Also, I would have to agree to disagree Nick, because I have seen Hundreds of 1996-W Dimes and not all, yes most, but not all have FB""
Paul, I said most not all. I think we are on the same page...
<< <i>Dan, What ever happened with your 05D MS68 you said was FB. Did PC ever add the FB designation to it?. >>
Nick I resubmitted the coin, along with three others. Of the other three coins, two were coins I had sent in for grading once before.
The third coin was one from an eBay purchase. The two I had sent in before came back FB on this trip. While the 05-D MS68, and the 1955-S ms67 still didn't get the bands. I'm going to send you the 05-D, and see what your opinion on this coin is, FB as I see it, or non FB as PCGS seems to see it, if it's ok with you of course.
<< <i>Paul, I said most not all. I think we are on the same page... >>
Nick, we are always on the same page.
Later, Paul.
P.S. Movieman, when are you going to chime back in? Don't just post 1x and leave us Bro!
Later, Paul.
you send them as regrades. Yes send me the 05D 68 I would love to see it.
I believe you just picked up an 05D 67FB didn't you.....
Nick
All the bands and reeds are intact, but the bottom bands left of the reeds, has a slight, ever so slight ding that crosses both sides of the bands.
That doesn't take away from the fact that it still graded a MS69, and from what I have heard, PCGS was a wea bit tougher on the grading back in the day of the Green Slabs like this one is in. I don't know as I haven't seen enough Green Slabs to be able to give my thoughts on that.
<< <i>After looking at it under a 10X scope, it is my opinion that it will not make the "FB" grade based on what I have read on the PCGS web site as far as what is needed for the FB grade.
All the bands and reeds are intact, but the bottom bands left of the reeds, has a slight, ever so slight ding that crosses both sides of the bands.
That doesn't take away from the fact that it still graded a MS69, and from what I have heard, PCGS was a wea bit tougher on the grading back in the day of the Green Slabs like this one is in. I don't know as I haven't seen enough Green Slabs to be able to give my thoughts on that. >>
I for one have to say that its very refreshing to have a completely honest and open discussion about your coin BEFORE you list it for sale. I thank you, and believe me you will do quite well with your auction.
Again, welcome to the boards!
Have any other Roosies?
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
The only other "Roosie" I have is another 1996 W in PCGS MS68. I may put it up on eBay a wea bit latter. It won't do the "FB" buggie either. It is in a Blue Label Slab.
I should have photos of the MS69 posted by Tuesday evening. I will try and do a "Micro" shot of the bands in question.
FYI, I have over a 700 Feedback on eBay with 100% Positives. That has taken me almost 9 years to get. I didn't get those by lying to folk, or trying to deceive them.
Thank you once more for the kind words.
<< <i>Thank You For Your Commit MR. Paul. I take it that you are a Three Stooges fan ? I am. Now the $100,000.00 question to you : ( without looking it up ) Why did Larry play the violin ? There was reason that he did. >>
OK, w/o looking it up, I would have to say that in Larry's youth he studied the Violin, and was actually professionally trained on it.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
Larry was burnt at a young age and his Doctor recommended him to play the violin as therapy to get his range of motion back in his arm. He went on to take lessons and yes he could play professionally.
The original 3 Stooges ( Moe Larry and Shemp ) was musical act. Shemp dropped out of the act and was replaced by Curley, until his death, and was replaced by Shemp again.
<< <i>Dan, Did you send them in before the dead line for designation review or did you send them as regrades. Yes send me the 05D 68 I would love to see it. >>
I sent them in before, and they logged in ONE day before the deadline date.
<< <i>I believe you just picked up an 05D 67FB didn't you..... >>
That I did, going to use it until they get my 68 right. Bought it from a nice fellow on eBay, name slips my mind at the moment. I see he has another one for sale and ending today. I believe if interested partys click on your auctions link, they may just find it...
I am going to have to send it back to PCGS to get re-slabbed.
What is PCGS's policy on re-slabbing an old "Green Label" slab ? Will they reuse the original label, or will they put a new Blue Label in ? I am wanting the original Green Label back.
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
1) Sell as is with the crack in the slab description in your lot, or
2) reslab @ PCGS, yes it will comeback in a new blue holder and not have the green one, but if you do send it back, have it re-graded, and if you get an MS69FB, you will double your money, as opposed to selling it as is. BUT, you take a gamble with losing the green label and getting NO FB designation and possibly having them de-grade the coin, which they are suppose to "Honor" the grade, but you never know.
Good luck,
Paul.
Later, Paul.
Possibly otherwise greatly harming value of coin - absolutely. Right now, coin has a premium due to its "freshness" and "chance" coin could possibly make FB. Once it comes back in blue holder without FB designation, forget about most of that premium IMHO.
Wondercoin
To tell you the truth, I was most disappointed when I saw the slight crack show up on my scans. First I thought it was hair. The faint crack runs from the outer edge ( rim ) of the coin, out from about the 2 or 2:30 position.
I need to give all of these new options some thought before I do anything with it.
Any other view point are More Than Welcomed.
the coin in under the regrade tier. If the coin does regrade 69FB you probably quadrupled
the value. The coin cannot be down graded so the worst case is it comes back in a nice fresh
new MS69 holder. I don't believe the current green label will bring much of a premium for such
a high graded coin, In fact it may bring less knowing how some coins over time can turn in
old holders. The coin is fresh no mater what holder it's in. I would much rather own the coin
in a current PCGS holder, and if I owned the coin and was selling it I would have it regraded
first. JMHO
<< <i>I disagree with leaving it in the old holder. I believe the risk to reward potential warrants sending
the coin in under the regrade tier. If the coin does regrade 69FB you probably quadrupled
the value. The coin cannot be down graded so the worst case is it comes back in a nice fresh
new MS69 holder. I don't believe the current green label will bring much of a premium for such
a high graded coin, In fact it may bring less knowing how some coins over time can turn in
old holders. The coin is fresh no mater what holder it's in. I would much rather own the coin
in a current PCGS holder, and if I owned the coin and was selling it I would have it regraded
first. JMHO >>
Movieman, Take Nick's advice and send it back to PCGS for a re-grade. He knows best.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
PCGS will not down grade a coin sent in under the regrade tier.
The simple fact is some collectors pay more for nice quality rattlers and green holdered coins. Taking a coin that has about 0 chance to work (based upon owner's interpretation of what he is looking at as I interpreted it), throwing more money in grading fees at it and losing the green holder on top of that is foolish IMHO. Only exception would be if the coin actually had any reasonable chance to grade FB. My suggestion is to show it to someone who could tell you whether it had 0 chance or not before destroying the neat green holder (after all this could possibly be the only MS69 Roosie dime in a green PCGS holder at this time - the only one possibly). Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin
I sent Movieman a PM and personally offered to look at the coin and if he didn't want to send it to me, I said that Nick or even You would be more than thrilled to view the coin.
I would be willing to pay SHI just to see the coin myself.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I had to go over in my head all of the input that everyone had given me on the board and in PM's. I am working on the eBay ad now, and it should be listed late this evening.
I will post the eBay ad number here, once I get one.
My Washington Type B/C Set
Nice looking 64 Quarter !!!!
You're welcome. Yeah I like my '64 quarter I think you made the best choice to auction your coin in the current holder. Good luck with your auction.
Ken
My Washington Type B/C Set
a couple of questions if they have not been asked...
Did you make this coin or did you buy it? If you made it, when did you submit it, and if you bought it, may we ask what you paid, and whom you bought it from?
Just wondering...
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.
I have always wanted to know when PCGS did do the change to Blue Slabs, but I just never ask. If anyone knows, would they please respond to this ?
As far as who did I buy it from and for how much, well lets just say that I have slept since them.
1. What's the reserve?
2. What's the return policy?
Thanks
<< <i>Forgive me if this was answered already:
1. What's the reserve?
2. What's the return policy?
Thanks >>
The reserve was $799.99 and I'm not sure about the return policy. He hasn't stated.
Later, Paul.
Later, Paul.