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PCGS MS 69 1996 W Dime Going To eBay Thursday Night

Hi, I just wanted to give who ever may be interested a "Heads-Up" that I am going to be placing my PCGS MS69 1996 W Dime on eBay this coming Thursday ( 3/27 ). I don't have an auction number just yet. I will have high resolution scans of it early next week.

Current Pop on this coin is 5.

It is in an old Green Label holder, and has a uniform light golden hue.

Please PM me if you have any questions.


Comments

  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard.

    The '96-W comes nice but usually that means 65 or 66 rather than MS-69.

    I think it's an underrated coin in ANY condition.
    Tempus fugit.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's the $100,000 qusetion....How are the Bands? Are they Full Split Bands?

    We must know this, and as sure as I'm typing this I just KNOW Dimeman is biting his fingernails waiting for your response! imageimage

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And oh, by the way WELCOME to the boards! This is really a neat way to say HI to everyone, by offering a coin that not a single Roosie collector has in his/her set!

    WOW! image

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭
    Paul, Even if the coin was FB PCGS eliminated thier designation review and the coin would
    have to be resubmitted for regrade to get the FB added. 96W's come well struck and most
    have full bands.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, as Paul said I'm waiting with baited breath on the FB thing.image

    My 96-W is a 68 I think. I don't know if it has bands or not to tell the truth. The pic looks to have them, but it's not on the holder and I for got to lookimage

    If mine is worth a bunch of money someone let me know so I can sell it and buy something really neat like a barber or seated dimeimage
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    Nick are you saying they are not honoring this statement any longer?


    << <i>Regrade: Use the "Regrade" service for coins previously graded by PCGS that you feel might be worthy of a higher grade. Submit the coins in the holder. We guarantee that the coins will not be downgraded. >>


    Or is it that the costs have been raised? image
    Dan
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Paul, Even if the coin was FB PCGS eliminated thier designation review and the coin would
    have to be resubmitted for regrade to get the FB added. 96W's come well struck and most
    have full bands. >>

    So are you saying in general that I will never be able to buy a Roosie that is already graded and send it to get the FB for worry that they will turn right around and de-grade the coin? I think the statement that Dan60 has in his post is right on. PCGS should regrade the coin and garantee the grade, and when they re-grade the coin they can put FB on the holder.

    I feel the designation review technically is not there, but is re-named "re-grade." Its just another way to get twice as much $$$ then they were getting.

    Also, I would have to agree to disagree Nick, because I have seen Hundreds of 1996-W Dimes and not all, yes most, but not all have FB, and yes even the higher graded ones too. I used to own an MS68 that did not qualify for FB's

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭
    Regrade does not mean that PC will just add the FB if the coin is full bands. They will regrade the coin
    as if it were raw. Example.....The above mentioned 1996W. Let's assume it is FB but was originally
    graded before the FB designation. The coin is sent in for regrade and it regrades at 68FB. PC will
    then put it back in the 69 non-FB holder. If the coin is a liner there is a good chance the coin would
    regrade 68 and stay in the 69 holder. How many 69's do you know of that would regrade 69 every time it was sent in. I
    mean where the 69 grade is a top pop and no 70's exist.

    Dan, What ever happened with your 05D MS68 you said was FB. Did PC ever add the FB designation to it?.

    ""So are you saying in general that I will never be able to buy a Roosie that is already graded and send it to get the FB for worry that they will turn right around and de-grade the coin?""

    No, I am not saying that. If the coin regrades lower with the FB designation PC will guarantee the original non-FB grade and reholder it
    with out the FB designation at the higher grade.

    ""Also, I would have to agree to disagree Nick, because I have seen Hundreds of 1996-W Dimes and not all, yes most, but not all have FB""

    Paul, I said most not all. I think we are on the same page...
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan, What ever happened with your 05D MS68 you said was FB. Did PC ever add the FB designation to it?. >>


    Nick I resubmitted the coin, along with three others. Of the other three coins, two were coins I had sent in for grading once before.
    The third coin was one from an eBay purchase. The two I had sent in before came back FB on this trip. While the 05-D MS68, and the 1955-S ms67 still didn't get the bands. I'm going to send you the 05-D, and see what your opinion on this coin is, FB as I see it, or non FB as PCGS seems to see it, if it's ok with you of course.
    Dan
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Paul, I said most not all. I think we are on the same page... >>

    Nick, we are always on the same page.

    Later, Paul.

    P.S. Movieman, when are you going to chime back in? Don't just post 1x and leave us Bro!

    Later, Paul.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    If it has bands, then it's way overdue. I agree with the well struck statement, as everyone I've personally bought has had them. That includes three unopened boxes of five mint sets each. Sadly the highest grade I made were 67FB's....image
    Dan
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭
    Dan, Did you send them in before the dead line for designation review or did
    you send them as regrades. Yes send me the 05D 68 I would love to see it.
    I believe you just picked up an 05D 67FB didn't you.....image

    Nick
  • After looking at it under a 10X scope, it is my opinion that it will not make the "FB" grade based on what I have read on the PCGS web site as far as what is needed for the FB grade.

    All the bands and reeds are intact, but the bottom bands left of the reeds, has a slight, ever so slight ding that crosses both sides of the bands.

    That doesn't take away from the fact that it still graded a MS69, and from what I have heard, PCGS was a wea bit tougher on the grading back in the day of the Green Slabs like this one is in. I don't know as I haven't seen enough Green Slabs to be able to give my thoughts on that.

  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>After looking at it under a 10X scope, it is my opinion that it will not make the "FB" grade based on what I have read on the PCGS web site as far as what is needed for the FB grade.

    All the bands and reeds are intact, but the bottom bands left of the reeds, has a slight, ever so slight ding that crosses both sides of the bands.

    That doesn't take away from the fact that it still graded a MS69, and from what I have heard, PCGS was a wea bit tougher on the grading back in the day of the Green Slabs like this one is in. I don't know as I haven't seen enough Green Slabs to be able to give my thoughts on that. >>

    I for one have to say that its very refreshing to have a completely honest and open discussion about your coin BEFORE you list it for sale. I thank you, and believe me you will do quite well with your auction.

    Again, welcome to the boards!

    Have any other Roosies?

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • Thank You For Your Commit MR. Paul. I take it that you are a Three Stooges fan ? I am. Now the $100,000.00 question to you : ( without looking it up ) Why did Larry play the violin ? There was reason that he did.

    The only other "Roosie" I have is another 1996 W in PCGS MS68. I may put it up on eBay a wea bit latter. It won't do the "FB" buggie either. It is in a Blue Label Slab.

    I should have photos of the MS69 posted by Tuesday evening. I will try and do a "Micro" shot of the bands in question.

    FYI, I have over a 700 Feedback on eBay with 100% Positives. That has taken me almost 9 years to get. I didn't get those by lying to folk, or trying to deceive them.

    Thank you once more for the kind words.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thank You For Your Commit MR. Paul. I take it that you are a Three Stooges fan ? I am. Now the $100,000.00 question to you : ( without looking it up ) Why did Larry play the violin ? There was reason that he did. >>

    OK, w/o looking it up, I would have to say that in Larry's youth he studied the Violin, and was actually professionally trained on it.

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • You have the second part of the answer correct.

    Larry was burnt at a young age and his Doctor recommended him to play the violin as therapy to get his range of motion back in his arm. He went on to take lessons and yes he could play professionally.

    The original 3 Stooges ( Moe Larry and Shemp ) was musical act. Shemp dropped out of the act and was replaced by Curley, until his death, and was replaced by Shemp again.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan, Did you send them in before the dead line for designation review or did you send them as regrades. Yes send me the 05D 68 I would love to see it. >>


    I sent them in before, and they logged in ONE day before the deadline date. image


    << <i>I believe you just picked up an 05D 67FB didn't you..... >>


    That I did, going to use it until they get my 68 right. Bought it from a nice fellow on eBay, name slips my mind at the moment. I see he has another one for sale and ending today. I believe if interested partys click on your auctions link, they may just find it...
    Dan
  • Bad News....... While doing the scans of the coin, a very faint hairline crack showed up in the slab. You can't see it with your eye, but it shows up on the scan. At 10X the field of view on my scope is filled just looking at the entire coin, so I never saw it before today.

    I am going to have to send it back to PCGS to get re-slabbed.

    What is PCGS's policy on re-slabbing an old "Green Label" slab ? Will they reuse the original label, or will they put a new Blue Label in ? I am wanting the original Green Label back.

  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    Blue label..they will not reuse labels, unlike NGC.
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

    image
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 options here Movieman:

    1) Sell as is with the crack in the slab description in your lot, or

    2) reslab @ PCGS, yes it will comeback in a new blue holder and not have the green one, but if you do send it back, have it re-graded, and if you get an MS69FB, you will double your money, as opposed to selling it as is. BUT, you take a gamble with losing the green label and getting NO FB designation and possibly having them de-grade the coin, which they are suppose to "Honor" the grade, but you never know.

    Good luck,
    Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    resubmitting the coin in the green holder = 0 risk of grade going down (without compensation from PCGS) so no risk at all.

    Possibly otherwise greatly harming value of coin - absolutely. Right now, coin has a premium due to its "freshness" and "chance" coin could possibly make FB. Once it comes back in blue holder without FB designation, forget about most of that premium IMHO.

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • Paul and Mitch have both brought up some very interesting points that I had not considered.......YET.

    To tell you the truth, I was most disappointed when I saw the slight crack show up on my scans. First I thought it was hair. The faint crack runs from the outer edge ( rim ) of the coin, out from about the 2 or 2:30 position.

    I need to give all of these new options some thought before I do anything with it.

    Any other view point are More Than Welcomed.

  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    MovieMan I agree, list it with the green tag, but be sure to mention the crack in your sales description... image
    Dan
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭
    I disagree with leaving it in the old holder. I believe the risk to reward potential warrants sending
    the coin in under the regrade tier. If the coin does regrade 69FB you probably quadrupled
    the value. The coin cannot be down graded so the worst case is it comes back in a nice fresh
    new MS69 holder. I don't believe the current green label will bring much of a premium for such
    a high graded coin, In fact it may bring less knowing how some coins over time can turn in
    old holders. The coin is fresh no mater what holder it's in. I would much rather own the coin
    in a current PCGS holder, and if I owned the coin and was selling it I would have it regraded
    first. JMHO
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I disagree with leaving it in the old holder. I believe the risk to reward potential warrants sending
    the coin in under the regrade tier. If the coin does regrade 69FB you probably quadrupled
    the value. The coin cannot be down graded so the worst case is it comes back in a nice fresh
    new MS69 holder. I don't believe the current green label will bring much of a premium for such
    a high graded coin, In fact it may bring less knowing how some coins over time can turn in
    old holders. The coin is fresh no mater what holder it's in. I would much rather own the coin
    in a current PCGS holder, and if I owned the coin and was selling it I would have it regraded
    first. JMHO >>

    Movieman, Take Nick's advice and send it back to PCGS for a re-grade. He knows best.

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    Have I missed something? I thought Nick said a coin going in after March 14th could be downgraded.
    Dan
  • onlyroosiesonlyroosies Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭✭
    Dan, I reworded my first statement at the beginning of this thread. Reread it and see if I answered your question correctly.

    PCGS will not down grade a coin sent in under the regrade tier.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    Geezzz... Why make this so hard, it was fine the way it was...
    Dan
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "The coin is fresh no mater what holder it's in."

    The simple fact is some collectors pay more for nice quality rattlers and green holdered coins. Taking a coin that has about 0 chance to work (based upon owner's interpretation of what he is looking at as I interpreted it), throwing more money in grading fees at it and losing the green holder on top of that is foolish IMHO. Only exception would be if the coin actually had any reasonable chance to grade FB. My suggestion is to show it to someone who could tell you whether it had 0 chance or not before destroying the neat green holder (after all this could possibly be the only MS69 Roosie dime in a green PCGS holder at this time - the only one possibly). Just my 2 cents.

    Wondercoin
    Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wondercoin,

    I sent Movieman a PM and personally offered to look at the coin and if he didn't want to send it to me, I said that Nick or even You would be more than thrilled to view the coin.

    I would be willing to pay SHI just to see the coin myself.

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    I have been looking for the auction, but so far I'm not finding it..
    Dan
  • I am sorry for the delay in getting my eBay ad up.

    I had to go over in my head all of the input that everyone had given me on the board and in PM's. I am working on the eBay ad now, and it should be listed late this evening.

    I will post the eBay ad number here, once I get one.

  • The eBay ad # is 180228243259. It will not be viewable until late tonight.
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    It comes up as having been removed??
    Dan
  • The ad just started about 7 minutes ago.
  • Thank You For The Link.

    Nice looking 64 Quarter !!!!
  • cointimecointime Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MovieMan,
    You're welcome. Yeah I like my '64 quarter image I think you made the best choice to auction your coin in the current holder. Good luck with your auction.

    Ken
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    Yeah, what he ^ said.
    Dan
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MovieMan,

    a couple of questions if they have not been asked...

    Did you make this coin or did you buy it? If you made it, when did you submit it, and if you bought it, may we ask what you paid, and whom you bought it from?

    Just wondering...image

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • I bought it a few years back. I don't recall exactly when, but I can tell you that at the time that I did buy it, PCGS had changed over to their Blue Slabs...... 1997-98-99-00 ?

    I have always wanted to know when PCGS did do the change to Blue Slabs, but I just never ask. If anyone knows, would they please respond to this ?

    As far as who did I buy it from and for how much, well lets just say that I have slept since them.

  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Forgive me if this was answered already:

    1. What's the reserve?

    2. What's the return policy?

    Thanks
  • Dan50Dan50 Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭
    $727.17 Not bad, with a week to go. image
    Dan
  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Forgive me if this was answered already:

    1. What's the reserve?

    2. What's the return policy?

    Thanks >>

    The reserve was $799.99 and I'm not sure about the return policy. He hasn't stated.

    Later, Paul.

    Later, Paul.
  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    If that dime was more toned then I might take a shot at it. I'm starting to like top pop toners. image
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