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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT EBAY HIDING BIDDERS ID'S






Hi there. I was just wondering what you all think about this. Here's my situation. I won a card off ebay this weekend, which I think is a rare card. It was a psa 8 Johnny Bench that doesn't come up very often. Now I don't use a snipe, I just put in the the highest amount that I would be willing to pay for a card. So I win it at my maximum bid. I check the bidding history and it shows that there were about 5 different bidders on it. Well one bidder just keeps on bidding it up by a couple of dollars here and there. Then he/she pushes it to my maximum bid and then quits. Now I know if I want something I put my highest bid and if I get out bidded I just say oh well. I don't keep pushing the bids up by a dollar or 2 each time. The only time I bid again is if I see my max bid is close to the highest bidders top bid. What I think sucks is that I can't check this persons feedback to see if they buy cards or if I am being schilled. I personally think that ebay should come up with a way that ids should be able to be seen only by the people that are bidding on that auction. So if I felt that something wasn't right I could have ebay look into it. What do you folks think? I don't know how to post a link and I don't want to put the auction id in just in case this person is a member here. I don't want to start a feud.

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  • hankcaddyhankcaddy Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i also think this is a shillers dream
    even on a low dollar item, they can move it up a few dollars and really add up the total on many auctions, lots of bids ending in .99
    and can really stretch out a popular or rare card by many dollars
    currently collecting baseball of
    2004 spx
    1989 topps psa 10
    1959 phillies
    Phillies of the 70's
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    All part of ebay's "Shiller Protection Program"
    Would strongly advise using a snipe program. Won't cure everything, but certainly can't hurt.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • It's absolutely a shillers dream.

    But, I do what johnny1976 does, with one exception... if I dont win, I leave it alone.

    Also, I recommend a snipe program.

  • You still see some letters and if you keep seing the same bidders on the same sellers auctions then you know something it up.

    Giovanni
  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭


    << <i>You still see some letters and if you keep seing the same bidders on the same sellers auctions then you know something it up.

    Giovanni >>



    they are random letters and feedback numbers, it does not help in spotting a shill at all
  • jradke4jradke4 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭
    well two points.

    first i know of bidders that i compete against who bid in those types of increments all the time. mostly they are trying to feel out someone else's bid.

    two, if you know who you normally bid against you can figure it out. they arent random letters/numbers of the sellers ID. from what I can tell is that they are always the same random letters/numbers.
    Packers Fan for Life
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    Favre TD Reciever Autos
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  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    When you click on a bidders "fake name" in the bidding history for an auction, it still tells you the number of auctions they have bid on and what percentage of those bids are with the same seller--so it is still possible to make educated guesses about whether that bidder may be a shill or not.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.


  • << <i>When you click on a bidders "fake name" in the bidding history for an auction, it still tells you the number of auctions they have bid on and what percentage of those bids are with the same seller--so it is still possible to make educated guesses about whether that bidder may be a shill or not. >>



    Thats cool to know, but people are gona shill anyway. They did before the letters dissapeared and their gona do it after.

    Giovanni
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you carebearlovin?
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭✭
    THE FEEDBACK NUMBER IS NOT BOGUS...YOU CAN USE IT TO DETERMINE BIDDER

    Loves me some shiny!
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    "What do you folks think?"

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    NEVER enter your maximum bid until the auction is almost over.

    USE a snipe program, OR be at the screen when the auction is closing.

    Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.


  • << <i>"What do you folks think?"

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    NEVER enter your maximum bid until the auction is almost over.

    USE a snipe program, OR be at the screen when the auction is closing. >>



    Exactly, accept for using a snipe service, lol. I wouldn't trust anybody with my password. I wait for the last 5 to 10 seconds to bid my maximum, and i've won most of the times image

    Giovanni
  • Just like private feedback if you are willing to dig around you can still find the bidders ID. It takes a while, but can be done. The user ID and Feedback are not bogus they just have a few letters removed and changed to ** to make it harder to detect.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    just another ebay scam to suck more fees since they supposedly lowered final value fees,this will make up that gap for that in shilling
    when does the new "i cant leave negative feeback for stupid people" kick in, or have they backtracked on that already?
  • it sucks and i'm not sure i understand e-bays thinking?
    Collector of 71 Kelloggs Football and Unitas cards.
  • colebearcolebear Posts: 886 ✭✭
    bidders

    This link shows that user ID's are assigned two random letters from the ID, it appears that the feedback number is now the same, I was wrong about that.
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