Auction Re: 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PRO 9.5 ... Would PSA Grade As Authentic?
JackWESQ
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Here's a link and image to an auction for a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 9.5.
Mantle PRO 9.5
It's a great looking card, but I suspect it might be altered. In any case, assuming it is authentic, would PSA assign this card a grade of "Authentic" if cracked out and submitted. I wonder what an Authentic grade would bring. $1,000.00? Or, perhaps, lots of thousands?
Though we'll likely never know, the history behind this card would be interesting.
/s/ JackWESQ
Mantle PRO 9.5
It's a great looking card, but I suspect it might be altered. In any case, assuming it is authentic, would PSA assign this card a grade of "Authentic" if cracked out and submitted. I wonder what an Authentic grade would bring. $1,000.00? Or, perhaps, lots of thousands?
Though we'll likely never know, the history behind this card would be interesting.
/s/ JackWESQ
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Jake
into the highest-level of holder that it can, PRIOR to being
marketed.
IF the card is "real but trimmed," PSA might slab it "authentic."
I am not certain that the folks at PRO can reliably determine
if the cards they slab are genuine. However, I do not think
they are evil; IMO, they are just not highly skilled.
I edited out the word 'evil'
and the Owners name.
Steve
<< <i>Pro, owned by some slime ball named John Hoffman is highly skilled.
I edited out the word 'evil'
Steve >>
Steve,
Can you please expand on the Slime Ball comment? I personally do not know John, but it sounds like you have some prior dealings which may be helpful information for the members of our message board.
Ever see a properly graded card in a PRO holder?
What more needs to be said.
Do you really think the owner of a company (who also owned ASA) prior to buying Pro, has no idea on how to grade?
Steve
<< <i>Justin
Ever see a properly graded card in a PRO holder?
What more needs to be said.
Do you really think the owner of a company (who also owned ASA) prior to buying Pro, has no idea on how to grade?
Steve >>
I thought ASA used to be owned by Alan Hager. Alan wrote a really neat book on cards, but his prices listed were fantasy level. He was the consumate salesman whom in my understanding patented the use of the slabs that all the grading companies use today and they have to pay him royalties. Alan was fun to talk with but it was amazing what would find itself in high grade ASA slabs. They were the first grading company I used to do business with. I would buy raw T206 Cobb's, T202 Cobb's, T205 Cobbs, E95 Cobbs, T227 Cobbs, etc, and submit them to ASA, and they'd come back typically no lower than 4's. He used to publish prices he would pay for ASA graded cards as well, so I sent him my Cobb collection. Of course, he wouldn't pay his advertised prices so I didn't sell to him and stopped using ASA. Once they were crossed to PSA, they turned into 1's, 2's and an occasional 3, and rarely a 4. I sold my Cobb collection in 1999 to use as a large down payment on a house, properly graded by PSA. One good thing about ASA, is that they were at least good at identifying alterations, counterfeits, etc.
Mike
was one of those bottom tiered organizations.
Perhaps I should just change my post and not mention the owner by name?
Steve
Dave D.
It was USA.
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I did not mean to imply that they lack the ability to grade/over-grade for profit.
Some years ago, I had an issue with them on some counterfeit minor-league BB.
I became convinced that they had done NOTHING evil, and simply had no clue
about telling fake from real.
I agree that the subject Mantle "looks real," based on the scan. I would NOT
trust PRO to confirm that.
Counterfeit stamps are now nearly perfect; coins are getting quite good; cards
are positioned to be hit HARD by the skilled print-jockeys of Asia.
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OT: There is a thread at N54 about card prices and the coming "depression."
It is worth a look.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1205590047/last-1205696584/The+Depression+of+2008
If you're considering having a card slabbed as Authentic, contact PSA Customer Service before sending it in to make sure that the forms are filled out in the way they would like and it's properly brought to their attention.
Nick
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good luck.
Steve
Jeff
by PSA.
Someone is into that card for serious dough I think.
If a person had 10k or less into it getting it into a slabbed authentic holder
could get them out of being buried.
at 49k the seller is dreaming, however all it takes is one guy who does not know
that all grading companies are not created equal and .....
Steve