<< <i>Just a thought. Any Company that has the attitude "screw the customer" and is not selling something that is absolutely a necessity will not be in business for long. (except escort services, of course) Also to cut copies of SMR may save a tree or two but if we really want to save trees just ban the production of sports cards. >>
Ralph
Was that rhetorical or do you feel PSA has "that" attitude?
11235813 Of the businesses you mentioned insurance & phone are pretty much a necessity and have treated customers more poorly than the others you mentioned. I think the cost of airline flight is extremely reasonable. Where there is competition prices tend to be a little more reasonable and we can choose not to purchase if we don't like the costs. There are many things I would like to have but cannot afford, on the other hand I appreciate what I do have. I have a hard time seeing the deck stacked against the consumer. There are means for wronged individuals to be made right and many eager to assist for their share of the remedy. We are an overweight nation partly because food is plentiful and extremely affordable. Stone I was only making a point. I am very pleased with the products and service at PSA.
<< <i>PSA will eventually suffer by losing the business of dissatisfied former customers like me >>
In the meantime, PSA greatly appreciates your internet traffic, which generates revenue through their advertising partners.
Pretty ironic, huh?
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
I don't get defending SMR in terms of its accuracy. As a guide it is useful, but only to that extent. It is generally inaccurate in a substantial number of circumstances (which is why Beckett's GCI is useful.....if it imitated SMR people would not buy it, or it SMR was more accurate........). In fact, in many cases SMR works against buyers when negotiating with dealers who treat it like the Bible.
That said, due to the advertising revenue PSA gains from it, it's not going away.
Ron
Ron Burgundy
Buying Vintage, all sports. Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
Hmm, SMR not the most accurate of price guides? Wow, breaking news there. And I would put more value into VCP than any printed price guide, including Beckett.
"I've never been able to properly explain myself in this climate" -Raul Duke
ebay i.d. clydecoolidge - Lots of vintage stars and HOFers, raw, condition fully disclosed.
<< <i>In the meantime, PSA greatly appreciates your internet traffic, which generates revenue through their advertising partners. >>
<< <i>Pretty ironic, huh? >>
Just a little....but given that the message boards are one of the few parts of their operation that I think they run well, I've got no problem patronizing them. Given that it costs me nothing to read and post on these boards, they actually are probably the only part of PSA where I feel that I get very good value for money....especially since they are free!
When grading first came out, almost every major card dealer was against it. This is true in all other collectibles for the most part (coins and stamps are other great examples).
If there ever was a time for grading to "fall" so to say, it was then. I am sure graded cards are going to be a part of this hobby from now on and I am sure that PSA will be around.
Clear Skies, Mark
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
I just went out for a pair of sneakers, when the Nike SHOX were priced at 140, I bought the new balance as well. I dont really need 140 sneaks for jogging around the neighborhood, but if I was going to the Gym at the Ritz, I may have considered it
I personally am disappointed by PSA lately. They have rude customer service, horrible turn around times, and have sold out to 4sc and dsl. However I do believe overall I receive a more accurate grade for modern stuff by PSA unfortunately for PSA, anything before 1980 now goes into a SGC holder.
We all know this and it has been discussed on here numerous times, but CU service went downhill when they decided to take the company public.
OP: I do not know why you keep calling other posters a corporate sycophant, but the modern use of that word is used to call someone something similar to a c*nt and that is not called for on these boards.
The "fig" meaning - obscenity - is virtually NEVER used by Americans. It is NEVER intended by users on this board; GUARANTEED. It is so obscure that there is argument as to whether it is even valid.
Toady" redirects here. See also, Todi.
A sycophant (Gr. (συκοφάντης is a servile person who, acting in their own self interest, attempts to win favor by flattering one or more influential people, with an undertone that this is at the cost of their own personal pride, principles, and peer respect.
In ancient Greece the word was the counterpart of the Roman "delator": a public informer.
According to ancient authorities, the word (derived by them from συκο suko, "fig", and φανης fanēs, "to show") meant one who informed against another for exporting figs (which was forbidden by law) or for stealing the fruit of the sacred fig-trees, whether in time of famine or on any other occasion (Plutarch, Life of Solon, 24, 2.). The Oxford English Dictionary, however, states that this explanation, though common, "cannot be substantiated", and suggests that it may refer instead to the insulting gesture of "making a fig" or to an obscene alternate meaning for "fig", namely sykon which means XXXXXXXXXXXX.[1]
Another old explanation was that fines and taxes were at one time paid in figs, wine and oil, and those who collected such payments in kind were often called sycophants because they publicly handed them in.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
''Keep in mind - PSA is a grading company who puts out a guide more as an afterthought IMO than it's primary mission''. ' Here's an idea scrap the the guide then since it's useless and get back to your "primary mission" GRADING cards.IMO
Collector of 71 Kelloggs Football and Unitas cards.
Comments
<< <i>Just a thought. Any Company that has the attitude "screw the customer" and is not selling something that is absolutely a necessity will not be in business for long. (except escort services, of course)
Also to cut copies of SMR may save a tree or two but if we really want to save trees just ban the production of sports cards. >>
Ralph
Was that rhetorical or do you feel PSA has "that" attitude?
mike
Of the businesses you mentioned insurance & phone are pretty much a necessity and have treated customers more poorly than the others you mentioned. I think the cost of airline flight is extremely reasonable. Where there is competition prices tend to be a little more reasonable and we can choose not to purchase if we don't like the costs. There are many things I would like to have but cannot afford, on the other hand I appreciate what I do have. I have a hard time seeing the deck stacked against the consumer. There are means for wronged individuals to be made right and many eager to assist for their share of the remedy. We are an overweight nation partly because food is plentiful and extremely affordable.
Stone
I was only making a point. I am very pleased with the products and service at PSA.
http://www.unisquare.com/store/brick/
Ralph
<< <i>PSA will eventually suffer by losing the business of dissatisfied former customers like me >>
In the meantime, PSA greatly appreciates your internet traffic, which generates revenue through their advertising partners.
Pretty ironic, huh?
That said, due to the advertising revenue PSA gains from it, it's not going away.
Ron
Buying Vintage, all sports.
Buying Woody Hayes, Les Horvath, Vic Janowicz, and Jesse Owens autographed items
And I would put more value into VCP than any printed price guide, including Beckett.
ebay i.d. clydecoolidge - Lots of vintage stars and HOFers, raw, condition fully disclosed.
<< <i>In the meantime, PSA greatly appreciates your internet traffic, which generates revenue through their advertising partners. >>
<< <i>Pretty ironic, huh? >>
Just a little....but given that the message boards are one of the few parts of their operation that I think they run well, I've got no problem patronizing them. Given that it costs me nothing to read and post on these boards, they actually are probably the only part of PSA where I feel that I get very good value for money....especially since they are free!
If there ever was a time for grading to "fall" so to say, it was then. I am sure graded cards are going to be a part of this hobby from now on and I am sure that PSA will be around.
Clear Skies,
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>If you want "Nike" go the PSA, if you want "Payless" then go to any other grading company!
Giovanni >>
Hey, c'mon now, I buy my shoes at payless. They're so cheap, I get 3 or 4 pair at a time. Great bargains there.
I buy it for the nude photos.....Oh wait a minute, wrong magazine, my bad
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<< <i>If you want "Nike" go the PSA, if you want "Payless" then go to any other grading company!
Giovanni >>
Hey, c'mon now, I buy my shoes at payless. They're so cheap, I get 3 or 4 pair at a time. Great bargains there. >>
LOL, didn't mean anything by it, just a saying
Giovanni
We all know this and it has been discussed on here numerous times, but CU service went downhill when they decided to take the company public.
OP: I do not know why you keep calling other posters a corporate sycophant, but the modern use of that word is used to call someone something similar to a c*nt and that is not called for on these boards.
It is NEVER intended by users on this board; GUARANTEED. It is so
obscure that there is argument as to whether it is even valid.
Toady" redirects here. See also, Todi.
A sycophant (Gr. (συκοφάντης
In ancient Greece the word was the counterpart of the Roman "delator": a public informer.
According to ancient authorities, the word (derived by them from συκο suko, "fig", and φανης fanēs, "to show") meant one who informed against another for exporting figs (which was forbidden by law) or for stealing the fruit of the sacred fig-trees, whether in time of famine or on any other occasion (Plutarch, Life of Solon, 24, 2.). The Oxford English Dictionary, however, states that this explanation, though common, "cannot be substantiated", and suggests that it may refer instead to the insulting gesture of "making a fig" or to an obscene alternate meaning for "fig", namely sykon which means XXXXXXXXXXXX.[1]
Another old explanation was that fines and taxes were at one time paid in figs, wine and oil, and those who collected such payments in kind were often called sycophants because they publicly handed them in.
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Here's an idea scrap the the guide then since it's useless and get back to your "primary mission" GRADING cards.IMO