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RickeRicke Posts: 677 ✭
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Came across this this morning. If authentic that's the finest Dominican punch I've ever seen. Frank Gilboy outlines this style as used in Dominica from 1761 to 1765 on earlier dated Mexican pillar coinage of all denominations. The punches came in 4 varieties, and without better images for the punch itself, I can't tell which it might be (again, if it's authentic and not a counterfeit). The 4 styles as follows:

Type I: Curved heart shape with crude sides and a bevelled edge.
Type II: True heart shape with bevelled edge.
Type III: Pointed heart shape with patterned border (obviously not)
Type IV: blunt heart shape, almost triangular with a patterned border on both sides.

After some time to think about trying to snipe it quietly, the numismatist in me took over, and I alerted the seller to this possibility.

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not an expert on these, but I have seen a few with patterned border on 2 Reales and if the sizes of the punches are the same across all 4 types - the one in the auction is way too small. From what I remember, the punch was almost the complete size of the shield.

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  • RickeRicke Posts: 677 ✭
    I thought about that myself, before I mentioned anything. You're right. the ones pictured are larger, however I'm not sure if all 4 varieties are the same size. Personally, I was leaning toward type 4, obviously because it is so crude and triangular. I would have expected a larger punch myself, though. If it's not authentic, it's obviously a counterfeit designed to appear similar. I would love to have it just to research it more.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is cool indeed, and the coin a lovely CircCam example, to boot.

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  • MadMuffinMadMuffin Posts: 468 ✭
    Very interesting coin!

    It's probably because I know little about such coins, but I tend to get suspicous when they look as good as this one - the "too good to be true"-look. I know a little about emergency coins from the Danish West Indies with different counterstamps - these are heavily falsified and as many as 95-97% are fakes. I wonder if other emergency issues from the Caribbean suffer from the same problem?

    Marcel
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