Another GAI post - WTF is This?

BobS

Wait a minute, what?

OnlyThe10s

This is fake right?

perkdog

I hope someone can offer a reasonable explanation of this. I mean we know that its not a real Wagner in there right?

BobS

I know squat when it comes to T-206's, so I can't offer any tell-tale signs the wagner is fake. But why in the world would GAI slab such a thing? Slab tampering perhaps?

OnlyThe10s

If that's real, this is an historic event. That one would out-grade the McNall/Gretzky card in theory, right?

clydecoolidge

From the net54 boards:

The letter states the cert # is: 10043898 with a grade of 5.

Now the seller states a number different then the letter: 10045031

So what number is it?

This card has been graded and authenticated by Global's team of experts.
It is authentic as long as it stays encapsulated within the Global Card Holder.

Manufacturer 0 1909-19 Sweet Caporal N/A
Player TOBACCO PACK
Sport Baseball
Cert Number 10043898
Grade 5

Manufacturer 0 1909-19 Sweet Caporal N/A
Player TOBACCO PACK
Sport Baseball
Cert Number 10045031
Grade 8

Something fishy with the two different cert#'s

clydecoolidge

Sure, I'll buy this Wagner from you "fasteddy" <----geez, that's warning number one right off the bat, lol.

DavidPuddy

<< <i>Sure, I'll buy this Wagner from you "fasteddy" <----geez, that's warning number one right off the bat, lol. >>



Ha, that's the first thing I thought.

Stingray

<< <i>If that's real, this is an historic event. That one would out-grade the McNall/Gretzky card in theory, right? >>



That Wagner is so fake, look how wide the border is on the card, no way!!

11235813

And why on earth would such an item be auctioned off on Ebay, instead of thru an auction house?

Because it's a fake and no auction house would touch it.....

Stingray

Are GAI holders easy to crack without too much damage showing??

clydecoolidge

Or would GAI grade the pack only, if the seller opened the cello and inserted the Wagner reprint before sending in for grading?

magellan

Maybe the Wagner is photoshopped on there post GAI grading?

ebayaddict

Dude says it is a reprint..............end of description.

clydecoolidge

<< <i>Dude says it is a reprint..............end of description. >>



I think the question is how exactly a reprint got into the "non reprint" pack of cigs. Obviously one of two things happened, the seller cracked the slab, or GAI authenticates things even though there was a reprint stuck in the package before being sent for grading. Both of which suck. Or maybe there's a more sophisticated scam going on, who knows.

Stingray

<< <i>Dude says it is a reprint..............end of description. >>



Not in exact words, only stated that it has sold as a reprint, giving the false impression that it still could be real.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

Called GAI. Said they'll check it out.

flatfoot816

seller also says that the winning bidder will be awarded 24 packs of GAI graded grocery cellos. UHHH no thanks!

WinPitcher

Dude says it is a reprint..............end of description.


Uhmmm I beg to differ, he says he is selling it as a reprint.


I also remember reading about this guy b4 here.


Steve

Leiascards

I have never heard of the cards being visible in the actual packs. Had GAI actually graded that thing they would have had a media storm on it. Look at the cigarette pack and the actual card there is no way they belong together. Where is the glassine wrapper around the card? This would be visible like on the other side in front of the card.

WinPitcher

I tried the search but could not come up with the old thread about this guy.

I think he was scamming something else last yr.

I remember the name...........


I'm sure a few of the other guys do also.


Steve