neutral feedback for $2.99 to ship card in PWE?
alifaxwa2
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I got a card for 99 cents, paid $2.99 shipping. Recieved card in PWE.
does this deserved neutral? or at least the following positive feeback....
quick shipping, however, charged $2.99 to ship in a Plain White Envelope
thoughts?
does this deserved neutral? or at least the following positive feeback....
quick shipping, however, charged $2.99 to ship in a Plain White Envelope
thoughts?
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No need for a neg unless the card was damaged (and even then I wouldnt leave neg unless he was unwilling to refund).
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I mentioned PWE in a sellers FB and he got real mad in a email and left me a neutral saying I "blasted" him. lol
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Honestly this is the kind of buyer that I am going to dread dealing with when the new feedback policy comes into effect. In the end the guy will probably capitulate to whatever alifaxwa2 asks because he will be afraid of a negative.
Robb
<< <i>Why does he deserve any refund or to complain about the method of shipping? He paid to have the item shipped to him and to arrive in satisfactory condition. Both of these things happened, I don't see what the problem is. Did the seller not live up to the terms of the auction in any way?
Honestly this is the kind of buyer that I am going to dread dealing with when the new feedback policy comes into effect. In the end the guy will probably capitulate to whatever alifaxwa2 asks because he will be afraid of a negative.
Robb >>
I have a feeling this is going to be a popular statement....
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<< <i>Why does he deserve any refund or to complain about the method of shipping? He paid to have the item shipped to him and to arrive in satisfactory condition. Both of these things happened, I don't see what the problem is. Did the seller not live up to the terms of the auction in any way?
Honestly this is the kind of buyer that I am going to dread dealing with when the new feedback policy comes into effect. In the end the guy will probably capitulate to whatever alifaxwa2 asks because he will be afraid of a negative.
Robb >>
As a buyer, I expect to pay a reasonable shipping price. For that reasonable shipping price I expect the seller to spend a reasonable amount of effort and money to give the item I bought a reasonable chance to get to me undamaged. I understand that there are costs involved, he needs to understand that ebay and paypal fees are not included in costs involved.
I've bought cards for $5 and $3 shipping, and gotten them in a toploader surrounded by cardboard and in a bubble mailer. I'll buy cards from that seller all day long.
I bought a card for $250 including shipping and received a bubble mailer with no insurance or confirmation. I won't spend a dollar with that seller again.
Just because the seller got lucky after being incompetent doesn't mean the buyer doesn't have a right to be upset.
JMHO
Pete
It is a shipping and handling charge. The 20 minutes it takes me to go to the post office is worth whatever I determine it to be worth and I charge accordingly. Shipping & Handling doesn't just include the price of materials and the cost of postage.
Any buyer that complains about my S&H costs gets blocked. I could care less what a buyer thinks is reasonable and I would definitely not want to do business with them again. Fortunately Ebay has an enormous audience of card collectors so buyers are readily replaced. I do 90% ebay store transactions and I get what I want for my cards and charge what I deem is appropriate for shipping & handling.
As for your $250 purchase, who cares if there was no delivery confirmation or insurance? That is the seller's problem not yours. If you had chosen to file a dispute you win. What exactly is the problem? The risk is entirely on the seller's side. Paypal disputes are simple enough. You would end up having to do one anyways even if the seller used DC & Ins.
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<< <i>Why does he deserve any refund or to complain about the method of shipping? He paid to have the item shipped to him and to arrive in satisfactory condition. Both of these things happened, I don't see what the problem is. Did the seller not live up to the terms of the auction in any way?
Honestly this is the kind of buyer that I am going to dread dealing with when the new feedback policy comes into effect. In the end the guy will probably capitulate to whatever alifaxwa2 asks because he will be afraid of a negative.
Robb >>
So If you went through the burger king drive through ordered 5 whoppers and 5 large fries for you and your friends get to the spot to eat and go into the bag to find all the fries just thrown in bottom of the bag and your burgers not wrapped just thrown in the same bag as well it would be cool. I mean you got your whoppers and fries didn't you.
<< <i>Hey fergie23. Can I have your eBay ID?
Chris >>
Me too!
I want to make sure I never deal with you.
I don't use a PWE to send or receive cards because I work at USPS and I see what happens to envelopes that aren't a uniform thickness throughout. Toploaders don't do a lot of good after they go around the curve just past the optical reader.
Most of the people on this board collect graded cards. Graded cards are usually in decent shape, I don't want to buy a nm-mt card and get a vg-ex card just because a seller saved the cost of a bubble mailer.
As for filing a paypal dispute when the card didn't have signature confirmation? Honest folks don't do that. The seller wouldn't know if I got it and was cheating him, or if I didn't get it.
A good seller spends the extra cents to make sure it gets there safely.
Just my .02, if your way works for you that's great
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Post your ebay IDs and I will gladly block each and every person that requests it. This board represents an infinitesimal portion of the ebay card buying public.
Dizzle, fortunately I don't eat at Burger King. Unfortunately your example has no relevance to the point I was making.
Robb
<< <i>Perhaps you have already dealt with me and just don't have a clue about it.
Post your ebay IDs and I will gladly block each and every person that requests it. This board represents an infinitesimal portion of the ebay card buying public.
Dizzle, fortunately I don't eat at Burger King. Unfortunately your example has no relevance to the point I was making.
Robb >>
Hey fergie. My eBay account is cwazzy34. Block away, buddy.
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I didn't imply that you should file a dispute for the card you received, that would be unethical. I simply said you would win if you had to file a dispute because there was no signature confirmation. Again there is NO risk on your part if a seller chooses to self insure and trust the post office. The risk is entirely on the seller's side. The first time they lose a Paypal dispute because they didn't use DC or signature confirmation will be last package they send without it.
Robb
The rule for sellers should be: Don't package any card in a fashion that the post office would reject an insurance claim for on the ground that the card was inadequately packaged.
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<< <i>It is a shipping and handling charge. The 20 minutes it takes me to go to the post office is worth whatever I determine it to be worth and I charge accordingly. Shipping & Handling doesn't just include the price of materials and the cost of postage.
Robb >>
It goes without saying (or should) that if someone is shipping in a PWE, they aren't spending (or shouldn't be) 20 minutes to go to the post office. And really, with Paypal shipping, that excuse is pretty weak anyway.
But thanks for your words of "wisdom."
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Do you want the other 12 I have to block also?
Believe me things can be worse.
With that said, I also agree with the OP and would be a tad p-o if my item came
damaged.
I have received cards the very same way and lucky for me they did not
come damaged.
Oh, did I mention that I would neg the seller?
Steve
<< <i>Perhaps you have already dealt with me and just don't have a clue about it.
Post your ebay IDs and I will gladly block each and every person that requests it. This board represents an infinitesimal portion of the ebay card buying public.
Dizzle, fortunately I don't eat at Burger King. Unfortunately your example has no relevance to the point I was making.
Robb >>
Please add detroitfan2 to your list of blocked bidders.
OTOH, how does a seller make money on a 99-cent item, if he
cannot inflate the S+H?
In the real world of mail-order and internet-sales, sellers can,
if they wish, institute a "minimum purchase" requirement. That
is not an EBAY option.
Offering bulk-lots (several similar items) in one listing is an EBAY
option that more sellers will likely use as time passes. EBAY has
made it VERY clear that they do NOT want "cheap items" on the
site; eventually, their wishes will be enforced.
Currently under HEAVY discussion is the concept of bifurcating
the collectible listings. There would be a separate portal linked
to the main site where ALL collectibles would be listed. S+H
might be regulated under such a scheme.
EBAY now views AMZN as their #1 competition. Electronics
and high-end fashion is where EBAY sees its future. The
hobbyists simply do not contribute enough to the pie to
be seen as serious retailers.
The notion that a card in a PWE arrived safely is not really the
issue. $2.98 for a PWE is gouging the buyer. Grace and luck
may render safe delivery, but not through any good-faith effort
of the seller.
I would leave a positive and mention the $2.98 PWE. I would
only do so in cases where the seller had already left a positive.
are making there extra money by charging a couple of extra bucks for shipping. I can deal with that, no problem. But if I do pay
for something that is valuable and it comes in a plain white envelope I feel cheated. I have had that happen to me before, and I
have left positive feedback, but did leave "paid $$$ and came in plain white envelope". I would just do that.
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Any buyer that complains about my S&H costs gets blocked. I could care less what a buyer thinks is reasonable and I would definitely not want to do business with them again. Fortunately Ebay has an enormous audience of card collectors so buyers are readily replaced. I do 90% ebay store transactions and I get what I want for my cards and charge what I deem is appropriate for shipping & handling.
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That kinda sounds a little harsh, but I have to agree. When a buyer desides to start that, it'll only get worse. The type of person that starts whining at a seller for a buck or two, or even worse... pennies, will probably fall into that "never pleased with anything" catagory. If a person doesn't like the shipping costs, they really should just move on. If the shipping is way out of control, report them, or just move on.
I've got better things to do than tell someone their time and effort isn't worth what they think, and they should sell me stuff at my dictated price.
JMO
item came in a plain white envelope, card was in a top loader, and not even taped at the top. Lucky the card was
not damaged. The seller has not left me a feedback yet, probably waiting for me.