A couple of Romans
JCMhouston
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lordmarcovan, I think you had both these emporers in your collection already but thought I would post them in case you have an interest. No ideas on value so if any interest just make a reasonable offer. I really don't know much about any of the ancients, they were in a large lot I bought back in the 90's in order to get a couple of British pieces. The references are what was on the original tags.
Caracalla S1948, a little dark but decent detail:
Phillip I S2583, really good detail
Caracalla S1948, a little dark but decent detail:
Phillip I S2583, really good detail
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You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
Caracalla:
Philip I:
Hmm.
Though the toning on yours is rather dark, I can see it has traces of iridescence and from what I can see in the picture, yours is also a high grade piece and a handsome coin.
Think I'll stick with the one I've got, though. So if anybody else wants a shot at a nice Caracalla (yours), I say good luck!
Now... Philip I.
It's as plain as the big nose on his face that your Philip I is superior to mine, mostly due to its luster, I would say.
(Gotta go look at mine in hand again).
I'm more interested in filling empty slots than upgrading right now, and my Philip was nice enough not to be an upgrade candidate, but if you wish to do a swap deal and have me pay you the difference, I'm game. (We'll just have to figure out what that difference is.)
Lemme research what I paid for mine, so we have some sort of scale of comparison. I'll also dig up the price I paid on my Caracalla, for reference.
I'm sure some of the more seasoned ancient coin collectors, or maybe our resident dealer (Civitas) can chime in with their opinions about these coins (yours and mine).
Thanks for posting these!
I paid Michael Swoveland ("Aethelred") $95 for the Caracalla.
I paid Steve McBride of Incitatus Coins (on the VCoins site) $29 for my Philip.
Using "Caracalla" as a keyword search on VCoins.com, I see some with about the same level of detail (but nicer luster than mine) in the $125-ish range, so I guess that fits. Yours? Dunno.
Mind you, I know next to nothing about relative scarcity of the different types and reverses and so on- I only use a sketchy rarity scale by emperor. I'm still learning.
I see some pretty nice, lustrous Philip I pieces in the $40s on VCoins.
Both Caracalla and Philip I rate an R3 for silver on the DOC database, but surely Caracalla must be at least a little tougher? His coins seem to be more expensive.
Re. your Philip, I would prefer to swap and pay you for the upgrade, but if your price is suitably agreeable to my ever-threatened cash supply, I would be a willing buyer on yours, outright. I could always sell my duplicate.
Let's see what the knowledgeable ones have to say about valuations of the four coins in this thread.
And thanks again for posting these.
As an eager student, I am always happy to see some Roman coin discussion, particularly when comparisons are made involving my own coins.
PS- I'd have sent you a PM, but you apparently do not have them activated. The PM would have only been an invitation to further discussion here, however.
I'd say your Caracalla is as good as mine, even though it has a lot of detail the obverse portrait on mine is pretty dark. I'll get back to you later today on the Phillip.
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For a moment, I thought you were oldcameoproofsguy when I saw the avatar.
Now, who wants mine?
Good luck with the Caracalla. Nice coin. Both yours and mine have different things about them that I like.
Caracalla's coins are often compared to The Portrait Of Dorian Grey. You can see him progressively age in the portraiture.
Some people collect just his portraits as a theme. He started out as an innocent looking child and ended up looking like the cruel tyrant he became. He's a relatively mild and pleasant looking youth on your coin, and a rather mean looking man on mine. Interesting.
The more I look past the dark toning, the more I find I rather like the engraving on your piece better. The relief seems lower on mine, and the artistic work just a tiny bit cruder.
After selling my first one, this upgrade cost me thirteen bucks.
'Twas worth it.
JCMhouston earns the coveted LordM Seal of Approval! (Awrk, awrk, clap clap clap)
My previous Philip I has sold to a mushroomlike individual and is winging its way to the Frozen North, also with surprising rapidity (by LordM shipping standards).
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Details:
Caracalla Denarius
Obverse:
Laureate head right
ANTONINVS PIVS AVG GERM
Reverse:
Caracalla standing left, holding baton and branch
P M TR P XVII COS IIII P P
Catalog:
RIC 246 RSC 247 - Struck AD 214
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