Weak Edge Lettering vs Partial Edge Lettering

19Lyds

Does anybody on the forums know where to go to get guidance on exactly what constitutes the difference between Weak Edge Lettering and Partial Edge Lettering on the Presidential Dollars??

It seems to me that there must be some absolute definition somewhere.

Missing Edge Lettering = All of the Edge lettering is missing (DUH!)

Partial Edge Lettering = At least one or more letters are missing (Completely missing or only half missing??) (What?)

Weak Edge Lettering = ________________________________

The difference between partial and weak must have some absolute guidlines. In other words, if the lettering is lightly impressed, is that Weak? (Possibly but PCGS doesn't seem to think so.......)

How about if part of a letter is missing? Is that Weak or Partial? I mean, if only half the letter is there it's partial right? Or would that be weak?

Anybody know for sure??

edix2001

<< <i>Anybody know for sure?? >>



Ken Potter?

Kaelasdad

From my own experience, a partial coin has to have at least a full letter missing, but it must not have any rim damage, like being caught in the shuler machine. Get a bad rim--youve got a body bag. Many collectors are being burned by buying edge damaged coins and submitting only to have the coins come back as bodybagged.

Now, I suppose you could have a very nice struck coin, nice strong edge lettering, but if for some reason, a letter is missing, and it has a nice unblemished edge, its a partial

You can have a very weakly lettered edge coin, with half of all the letters gone, all the way around the coin, and its a weak, not a partial, since there are portions of all the letters visible. You would think it would be a partial but it isnt.

You can have a weak edge lettered coin with complete lettering visible all around the coin, and these are the tough ones, because i have seen weak, weaker, and weakest types, and where the weakest get the label--the weak sometimes fail and half or less of the weaker coins grade out. Weak edge labels are the toughest crapshoot--it almost depends on the grader and if he is in the mood to attribute weak edges that day.

19Lyds

Thanks Russ but thats ("it almost depends on the grader and if he is in the mood to attribute weak edges that day. ") not what I wanted to hear!

I would like for PCGS to publish exact standards so those of us that do not know could possibly save some submission fee's. I've wasted more than I care to admit too and I'm getting a bit tired of it!

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I would think the above qualify for Weak just from a visual comparison.

derryb

I would define weak edge lettering: Whenever at least two or more letters (numbers) are not completely visible under 10x magnification (parts of the letter are just not there) and at least 50% of the remaining lettering show weakness in the strike when compared to a normally struck coin.

Kaelasdad

Hi lee--remember, that was just my opinion based on my own results, as i have submitted quite a few coins for weak and they came back--and I hate just spending them because they are weak--just not weak enough. The coin you show in the middle would seem to hold promise....Russ

tahoe98

the mint really needs to lose the edge lettering. it's nothing more than a nuisance and a mint blunder!!