Authentic Ruth ?
TNTonPMS
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Does this look like an authentic Ruth ?
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Is that yours or what?
Giovanni
Actually , that is not an authentic Ruth , Mark Koenig ghost signed for Ruth according to PSA .
I think he did a damn good job and going by that signature, I would say some got passed , because it looks like a lot of Ruth's I have compared it to , that are supposedly authentic , the H, I have never seen Babe Ruth sign like that, with the loop over , But everything else is so close !
An artist that knows all about signatures and studies an auto, maybe has knowledge of the authentication process... could in theory, fool everyone,,, no? I just have a hard time with the whole thing.
Also, that's a nice looking ball, but a forgery has to look authentic... aaarg.
<< <i>Looks real to me, but I have a feeling a ton of the Ruth autos including those certified are fake. >>
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I agree , I have seen that R before on some authenticated baseballs , completely different from the Known Ruth signatures , like on one of his checks , the same type of R on my baseball
I wouldn't but this one even if I had the money to burn and even if it were graded by PSA or Spence .
Recently surfaced after grampa found it in his desk drawer
That's what I'm sayin, I know if some of these great artists that can draw peoples faces almost lifelike , they shouldn't have too much of a problem copying an easy signature like Babe Ruth's
That has to hurt , when I was getting my 32 Authenticated , I sent pictures first to show them what I had and they got back to me saying it was a forgery , so they were doing a show and I had a couple of other Vintage team signed yankee baseballs I wanted to get authenticated ,
I brought my 1939 and my 1958 along with the 32 , they authenticated both of those and then I threw him the 32 they said was a forgery , then he says . . .hold on , back up a minute , this definitley deserves a second look , sooooo a few weeks ent by and they finally got back to me , Authentic 1932 !
Well you can imagine how I felt after that, after thinkin all that time they were going to still say it was a forgery or Ghost signed , seems they thought it was forged because the stamping on the baseball looked funny to him , something about they changed the ways the letters looked , they determined the baseball is from an earlier date , maybe 1930 or 31 , but the signatures are from 32 because the had just changed the style of the lettering on the baseballs in 32 , or at least that is the way it was described to me .
All that time I thought it was real , then to find out it is a forgery by one of the best authenticators only to find out it is in fact authentic !
What a ride , great outcome though .
They all look alike to me , that all look like they were signed by the same person .
The Koening one is interesting, but the slant over the sweet spot is a dead giveaway.
The grandpa ball is not even close.
Bosox1976
<< <i>Ruth signed so much stuff, and always took his time to make a nice signature, that any time you see a variation you have to be suspicious. After all there are a ton of Ruth signatures out there, there is no reason to spend money on a sig that doesn't match his normal patterns of signing.
The Koening one is interesting, but the slant over the sweet spot is a dead giveaway.
The grandpa ball is not even close. >>
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Exactly !
I also agree the grampa one is not even close , the grampa one as far as I know has yet to be authenticated , But that ridiculous statement , just raises red flags for me . . .
An authentic Babe Ruth really needs no kind of story , the signature stands on it's own , which was what was killing me when they first said mine was a forgery , I went away saying , Someone did a damn good job at this , not to mention all the other signatures , I was devistated for a few weeks until it was finally authenticated .
I think if you even have to question it , you may as well forget about it
<< <i>An artist that knows all about signatures and studies an auto, maybe has knowledge of the authentication process... could in theory, fool everyone,,, no? I just have a hard time with the whole thing. >>
Greg Marino did just that. BoSox made the same point as that episode of Masterminds is about Greg Marino. He did a ton of Ruth baseballs and they were VERY good. There are pictures of his front man with several hobby elite holding a Ruth ball they bought. They said he just with a notebook and practiced for days and his partner came in and threw his books in the floor and told him to practice harder haha.