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does Die Polish/Erosion/etc automatically merit technical grading penalties?

if the coin is "as struck", do coins showing heavy polish or erosion automatically suffer a technical grade penalty?

or just a market-grade penalty (they're probably the same thing at this point, right?)

Im wondering if a perfectly clear field with prominent die erosion would automatically grade lower than a slightly chattered field otherwise perfectly smooth...

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heavy die erosion or heavy die polish would keep if from getting a 70.

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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,842 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know that as far as Darkside grading goes - die rust/corrosion, planchet defects and weakness of strike result in lowering the overall grade.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking it really depends on the amount of die polish and its prominence on the coin.

    Technically the coin is "as struck" but "as struck" can be interpreted many different ways. For example, a coin struck on a poorly prepared planchet that has deep gouges in it will often times come out looking like its been beat up with deep gouges on it. I have many Eisenhowers that exhibit planchet marks on the high points of the coin (cheek, jaw, forehead) and these keep them out of higher grades. Die polishing marks are less important than planchet marks but each are considered in the technical grade depending upon their relative severity.

    Die erosion is another story since to get an MS64 or higher, the coin must have an above average strike. Clearly, a mushed out die eroded strike is not above average so in that case, yes, it will inhibit the grade regardless of how clear the fields are of contact marks.
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    thankya, big-big

    what I figgur'd, but I thought it bore mentioning


  • << <i>I'm thinking it really depends on the amount of die polish and its prominence on the coin. >>


    Yes, that's pretty much what it comes down to.

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