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For you Toned Full Step Early Jefferson Nickel Fans

UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
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What do you think grade wise?
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    65/66FS (95% FS from the picture)
  • ChuckCChuckC Posts: 1,600
    66FS...great color!
  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478 ✭
    Very nice! I would say 66 FS. The color is great, strike could be better though (as can be said of a lot of these).
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  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    66FS assuming the outer edges are not weak as the picture implies.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I would guess 66FS without looking at the other guesses.

    Nice color.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Easy 66FS, without the orange-peel surfaces I might even give it a puncher's chance at a 67.

    I have a very similar coin to that, with similar toning and surfaces as smooth as glass..... along with several big carbon spots. It looks like someone sneezed on it when they put it into the holder. Heartbreaking....


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66FS, looks clean enough for a 67, but MDS limits grade.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Not sure but I think the weak strike on the obverse would keep it at 66 or lower. It's close to a FS based on the photos so if graded it would just depend on the grader and the day.
  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    66 almost 6 full steps, NICE
    ED
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500 ✭
    PCGS MS65 (this could go 66/67 if there is more obverse luster than I see)
    NGC MS67*


    from what I see there is connection between steps 4 & 5 between pillar I and pillar II
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    66 almost perfect steps
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  • harvey85422458harvey85422458 Posts: 1,004
    66 5FS
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  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Easy 66FS, without the orange-peel surfaces I might even give it a puncher's chance at a 67.


    Sean Reynolds >>





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    LDS... only a few spots on the coin that might keep it out of a 67FS holder.

    Edited to add... The more I look at it, the more I wonder about the FS designation with the slight cut on the top step near pillar 3.

    Steve
    U.S. Air Force Security Forces Retired

    In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭
    I have to say....and I am not a nickel expert by any stretch.....that the perception that PCGS or NGC will not give out the FS designation due to a hit on the steps is.......very suspect at best. They probably have guidelines that even state that in their grading criteria, but if you take a few moments to look at the heritage auction archives and look at the FS nickels in both holders....there is a boatload that would not meet the standards you guys are using. That's not to say your standards are incorrect....just saying that they aren't following them.

    If you doubt me.....go take a peek and report back on how many you see........quite surprising. image


    As for this coin....I feel very comfortable with a 66FS shot 67 FS.....I like it.
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  • quickwingquickwing Posts: 1,155
    67FS. Very Nice.
    OLDER IS BETTER
  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to say....and I am not a nickel expert by any stretch.....that the perception that PCGS or NGC will not give out the FS designation due to a hit on the steps is.......very suspect at best. They probably have guidelines that even state that in their grading criteria, but if you take a few moments to look at the heritage auction archives and look at the FS nickels in both holders....there is a boatload that would not meet the standards you guys are using. That's not to say your standards are incorrect....just saying that they aren't following them.

    If you doubt me.....go take a peek and report back on how many you see........quite surprising. image


    As for this coin....I feel very comfortable with a 66FS shot 67 FS.....I like it. >>


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    ED
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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    UtahCoin, Nice Jeff. Believe it to be a MS66FS with a late die state obverse, mid die state reverse. The obverse will keep it from a 67 holder. kryponitecomics, The step grading tightened about three years ago because of several buyback issues with PCGS. (i.e. 60-d fs) You can easily find early graded holders with hits in the steps. Holdered Jeffs that are later serial numbered usually won't have the hits you are seeing. Light contact marks that don't interupt the step are usually ok. I believe due to the tightened standards, Jeffs with hits in the steps even though graded fs, are distinctly harder to sell. Shag (former Jefferson registry participant)
  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I have to say....and I am not a nickel expert by any stretch.....that the perception that PCGS or NGC will not give out the FS designation due to a hit on the steps is.......very suspect at best. They probably have guidelines that even state that in their grading criteria, but if you take a few moments to look at the heritage auction archives and look at the FS nickels in both holders....there is a boatload that would not meet the standards you guys are using. That's not to say your standards are incorrect....just saying that they aren't following them.

    If you doubt me.....go take a peek and report back on how many you see........quite surprising. image


    As for this coin....I feel very comfortable with a 66FS shot 67 FS.....I like it. >>




    If your refering to my previous comment about the possibility that the coin could also not come back with steps... I agree with you... the grading services are, at times, all over the place... thus, the phrase comes to my mind... grade the coin, not the holder. And since I tend to grade a point lower looking at pictures, you may be absolutely right about a 67 grade. But the question was... What do you think it will grade?

    Secondly, I like the coin as it is. Regardless of the steps, I think it has more of a shot at a 66 than a 67.

    Steve

    U.S. Air Force Security Forces Retired

    In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have to say....and I am not a nickel expert by any stretch.....that the perception that PCGS or NGC will not give out the FS designation due to a hit on the steps is.......very suspect at best. They probably have guidelines that even state that in their grading criteria, but if you take a few moments to look at the heritage auction archives and look at the FS nickels in both holders....there is a boatload that would not meet the standards you guys are using. That's not to say your standards are incorrect....just saying that they aren't following them.

    If you doubt me.....go take a peek and report back on how many you see........quite surprising. image


    As for this coin....I feel very comfortable with a 66FS shot 67 FS.....I like it. >>




    If your refering to my previous comment about the possibility that the coin could also not come back with steps... I agree with you... the grading services are, at times, all over the place... thus, the phrase comes to my mind... grade the coin, not the holder. And since I tend to grade a point lower looking at pictures, you may be absolutely right about a 67 grade. But the question was... What do you think it will grade?

    Secondly, I like the coin as it is. Regardless of the steps, I think it has more of a shot at a 66 than a 67.

    Steve >>



    I wasn't really referring to anyone's post specifically just stating an observation I had made over the past year......as for me...I agree......more 66 than 67 from what I can see image
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