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My New 1907 Brenner Lincoln Plaque Arrived!

ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is just too cool. Last time I felt the "thats neat " feeling like this was with my first 280Z. Anyway, its authentic, its been cleaned, but the details are nice and ...it is just too cool!!!

One of you fellows good in photoshop should pull this bust off these pics and "put" it onto a cent coin, it would be neat to see Brenners original design in the form of the coin itself!!

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Those are pretty cool.

    Sorry, my photo shop skills are not quite up to that level yet.
  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭


    Congtrats, very nice!
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,066 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that's a lot of copper. How big is it? ......makes me think about replumbing my house...
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Still really cool

    Congrats image
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Im droooolin on it! 7 and a half by nine, about 3 mm thick, very heavy!
  • As good as I can do.

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that is beautiful!
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    KOOL !!!
  • The V.D.B. is one the reverse. ;-)
  • crispycrispy Posts: 792 ✭✭✭
    That would look perfect in my den. Very nice.

    What are the dimensions of it?
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AMAZZZZING!!
  • loro1rojoloro1rojo Posts: 266 ✭✭✭
    By the time it took me to do the photoshop, some people have posted away their interpretations..

    According to VDB, the bottom of the bust of the profile was supposed to touch the rim of the coin.. and the mint's alteration to separate them both took away from the coins "artistic design". With that in mind, this is how the cent would probably look had VDB had it his way...

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  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    To get an idea of what the first pattern cents looked like (short of buying my 1909-1915 book):

    1. remove IGWT,
    2. insert Lincoln bust same size head as on 1909 coin, but coat & shoulder are longer;
    2a. move bust upward leaving a small gap between top of head and rim;
    3. crop bust just short of the rim – the originals did have space between the rim and bust.

    The result should have normal sized head and longer bust w/ no motto.

    (Edited to make sense...)
  • crispycrispy Posts: 792 ✭✭✭


    << <i>By the time it took me to do the photoshop, some people have posted away their interpretations..

    According to VDB, the bottom of the bust of the profile was supposed to touch the rim of the coin.. and the mint's alteration to separate them both took away from the coins "artistic design". With that in mind, this is how the cent would probably look had VDB had it his way...

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    I like it this way. Lincoln has much more presence when his bust bleeds to the edge of the coin.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice items

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  • Those need to go into the Lincoln Museum!
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Love it! imageimage

    I like little rectangular medals and such.

    Bought this 1912 Brenner plaquette last year, sold it in December. It was a cool little piece.

    Stuff like this could definitely grease the skids that slide me ever closer towards the slippery slope of exonumia.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the second Lincoln, and I understand what you mean about lincolns bust, as I understand it the head was higher also, on the first patterns struck and (destroyed) without the motto.

    but that groove under the neck is just too much of a part of what we view as the cent. so it has to stay. The bust....I see a slight thiness to the area below the neck, almost like the coin is a bit wider at the neckline. But it is amazing that it scales down and fits in there so well you really need to look twice to see its not a real coin. Pretty need to be able to do this on the computer as well. Here is a neat shot, gets you the idea of the scale involved here.

    Thanks to all for the Virtual Cent Photos!

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  • Congrats on a nice piece ambro, I like it! (I forgot to mention that in my generic pic post yesterday!) image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Brenner apparently submitted a plaster copy of the medal - about 5-in diameter - so the reduction was not as great. He used the same portrait as often as he though he could sell medals, plaques, coasters, handbags, gunstocks or anything else to earn some $$. Henri Weil of Medallic Art Co made the first reductions to hubs.

    Try looking up "Roine" or "Pratt" for Lincoln medals, then pasting the portrait onto the cent. Should be interesting.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To get an idea of what the first pattern cents looked like (short of buying my 1909-1915 book):

    1. remove IGWT,
    2. insert Lincoln bust same size head as on 1909 coin, but coat & shoulder are longer;
    2a. move bust upward leaving a small gap between top of head and rim;
    3. crop bust just short of the rim – the originals did have space between the rim and bust.

    The result should have normal sized head and longer bust w/ no motto.

    (Edited to make sense...) >>




    If anyone has any passing interest in Lincolns, I suggest you get RWB's book. It is well worth the purchase price.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes that silver brenner medal sold on ebay I has been mentioned here. Id have bid but Im actually looking for a bronze one, just to keep it all Copper. BTW contacted an artisan on the left coast who make lamps and does brass work, he is going to repatina it to match the tonality of the original.
  • Very cool.

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