PRO F. Robinson Rookie
tcbphd
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tcbphd
Posts: 125
tcbphd
Posts: 125
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The upper right corner looks dinged which would probably keep this from a PSA 9. If the price is right, it may be worth taking a shot as the card does not appear to be trimmed at first glance.
I once bought a 52 Reese PRO 7. I did not see the crease that went right thru the middle
of the card. Of course that is the card I got my one and only negative too.
Teddysballgame, anyone remember them?
I then resold the card on ebay with full disclosure and got my money back.
Pro had a great chance at being a TPG then John Hoffman bought them and that ws the end of that.
Be very careful if it is in a PRO holder something is not right.
Steve
Run like the wind, AWAY from any Powerseller with this much feedback and baseball card expereince selling a high grade vintage Pro-Graded card. This is an easy call, a VERY easy call...the odds are virtually 100% certain, if not 100% certain, that this card is trimmed.
Teddysballgame, anyone remember them?
NOT to be confused with our own Teddysballgame.
This was an outfit out of California.
Steve
I think his PSA cards should be ok?
Steve
PRO 9 - 1955 Roberto Clemente = PSA 5 (thought it might have a chance at 6 if not trimmed)
PRO 8 - 1953 Satchel Paige = PSA 3 (this was laughable as it had a crease - I thought it would be a PSA 3)
PRO 9 - 1953 Satchel Paige = trimmed (too bad, this one would have probably been at least a 6. It measured OK to me I did not resubmit...yet)
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Pretty much.
Gambling can pay-off sometimes, but it is usually a bad bet.
I have become convinced that they do not do evil on purpose.
I think they just do not know what they are doing. They seem
not to know fake from real, altered from original.
<< <i>"A "knowledgable" collector buying Pro-Graded cards is a gluten for punishment. Case closed."
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Pretty much.
Gambling can pay-off sometimes, but it is usually a bad bet.
I have become convinced that they do not do evil on purpose.
I think they just do not know what they are doing. They seem
not to know fake from real, altered from original. >>
<<<<< Gambling can pay-off sometimes, but it is usually a bad bet. >>>>>
I don't disagree with that, but the original topic here was buying a particular Pro-Graded card off of an established, knowledgeable dealer, and as WinPitcher pointed out, this guy also has PSA cards for sale. Now the simple rhetorical question is why would he have this card in a Pro-Graded holder when he could slab it in a PSA holder and get more money for it - MUCH more money for it.
Frankly, his little schtick about getting cards on consignment, in my opinion is a sort of a scam here implying to a potential buyer that maybe some babe-in-the-woods naively got a nice card Pro-Graded, and gave it to him on consignment, and therefore this card could be a great buy and therefore a "good gamble" - Well in my view the chances of losing this bet are 100%. Somebody paid $125 for a card which to me is worthless.
They (PRO) know exactly what they are doing.
Steve
<< <i>Storm
They (PRO) know exactly what they are doing.
Steve >>
Pro-Grading definitely knows what they are doing. We have our "little arguments" here about precise grades on PSA cards, but look at MooseDog's example of a Pro 8 with a crease - I mean that is pathetic.
"Basic" card grading isn't rocket science - basic card grading can be learned in 10 minutes or less. And Pro's "tendency" to grade trimmed cards has been well documented here and at other websites. Pro-Grading readily and often grading trimmed cards isn't speculation or rumor - it's a FACT.