Canadian Proof set pricing

ksboy

Does anybody have a reputable site for pricing on Canadian Proof Sets?

ormandh

Ebay? -Dan

1960NYGiants

Try:

Colonial Acres

or

Gatewest

or

J and M

BobSav

Just looked at the "colonial acres" site and the gov't sets are called "proof like".
Is that the way the canadian govt labels them.

Bob

shirohniichan

<< <i>Just looked at the "colonial acres" site and the gov't sets are called "proof like".
Is that the way the canadian govt labels them.

Bob >>



Prooflike sets are like the US Mint sets. From 1981 on the RCM has offered proof sets along with specimen sets and prooflike (or "numismatic BU") sets. The PL sets have been around with official status since 1953, but some sets assembled by the RCM for collectors starting in 1949 have included prooflike coins along with regular circulation strikes.

BTW, "prooflike" in Canadian terms is different from the "proof-like" Morgan dollars US collectors are used to. PL in Canada means the coins were collector strikes using slower moving equipment to achieve superior quality. Since the RCm has used chromed-plated dies since the 1940s, many of their circulation strikes have mirrored fields. This does not mean that the coins are prooflike in the Canadian sense.

WWW

I still have a hard time differentiating between the Canadian PL strikes and MS strikes with PL surfaces.
Someone please tell me there is a sure fire way to do this.

ajaan

<< <i>I still have a hard time differentiating between the Canadian PL strikes and MS strikes with PL surfaces. >>


The same with me and many of the TPGs. Many dealers in Canadian material also can't tell. The only sure way for me is if I cut the PL coin out of a PL set.

shirohniichan

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<< <i>I still have a hard time differentiating between the Canadian PL strikes and MS strikes with PL surfaces. >>


The same with me and many of the TPGs. Many dealers in Canadian material also can't tell. The only sure way for me is if I cut the PL coin out of a PL set. >>



Yup. In most instances circulation strikes are much more valuable in high grade than PLs. I've decided to fill empty album spaces with PLs instead of spending a lot for circulation strikes that look suspiciously like inexpensive PLs.

mrpotatoheadd

This looks to be as good a place as any to ask... I posted this picture of a 1953 set previously, and have been looking for pricing info. My Charlton catalog says that there were sets made in 1953, but only gives values starting in 1954. I've tried checking website listings and such, but haven't really found anything that helps. Does anybody know what the current value is (approximate is okay) for one of these?

1960NYGiants

Mr PotatoHead - my latest copy of CCN Trends lists the 1953 SF (shoulder fold) set at C$1750. BTW: assumption is all coins are PL64.

mrpotatoheadd

<< <i>Mr PotatoHead - my latest copy of CCN Trends lists the 1953 SF (shoulder fold) set at C$1750. BTW: assumption is all coins are PL64. >>

Thanks! I've been considering subscribing to CCN in order to get their trends- do you find their figures to be accurate, or is there another source for pricing that does a better job? I'd really like to find something that's more up-to-date than the annual Charlton/Krause catalogs. Do you know anything about Canadian Coin Dealer Newsletter? I sent an email inquiry for info, but never received a reply.

WWW

In most instances circulation strikes are much more valuable in high grade than PLs.

What dates would be the notable exceptions?

Also, I have a 1949 $ in PCGS PL66 and MS66. Which one commands a premium? I thought it was the PL,
but I still have a lot to learn. BTW: The 1949 dollar drives me crazy when looking for true PL examples.

1960NYGiants

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<< <i>Mr PotatoHead - my latest copy of CCN Trends lists the 1953 SF (shoulder fold) set at C$1750. BTW: assumption is all coins are PL64. >>

Thanks! I've been considering subscribing to CCN in order to get their trends- do you find their figures to be accurate, or is there another source for pricing that does a better job? I'd really like to find something that's more up-to-date than the annual Charlton/Krause catalogs. Do you know anything about Canadian Coin Dealer Newsletter? I sent an email inquiry for info, but never received a reply. >>



IMO - CCN Trends is more up to date than Charlton. The editor updates a different section every issue. The 2/19 issue updated the silver dollars. Values that changed are noted by an *. Another nice thing he does is to alternate the last section. The 2/5 issue had Tokens and Cameo Coins values. The 2/19 has Tokens and Government Paper Money.

I have no experience with CCDN.

bosox

I subscribe to both Mike Findlay's newsletter (CCDN), and Canadian Coin News.

Findlay's newsletter is quarterly and over a one year cycle gives wholesale and retail prices for all Canadian and Maritime coins and paper. It is a great info source because the dealers use it more than Trends to price their goods. The problem is that not everything is included each quarter.

Trends gives only retail prices. Rick Simpson does a good job of melding dealer sales and auction results into a coherent retail price list. It covers all of the Canadian coins every two weeks. Usually he updates one denomination each printing cycle.

Using both lists gives you a really good idea of both buy and sell values.

Rob

mrpotatoheadd

1960NYGiants and bosox:

I have sent in a subscription order for CCN. I tried previously to contact Mike Findlay (CCDN) at the email address listed on The Canadian Coin Reference Site, but have yet to receive a reply. Thanks for the info.

bosox