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I've been doing some thinking about the safety and security of my cards. Pretty soon we will be moving the Indy area. We've been looking at apartments online and viewing some of their safety ratings. I'm not impressed to say the least. Before we move we are definitely buying Laser Shield Mobile Security. But, I have a couple of questions about the safety and security of my cards. Should I calculate the cost of my higher end stuff and add it as a personal articles on my insurance? If so, what are the requirements for that stuff? Should I just store my stuff away in some vault and not display it? There's no fun in that but I don't want to loose my investments. I'm just at a lost and really quite nervous about all of this. Any suggestions?

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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    3 options- take advantage of all or none, depending on the level of risk that is acceptable to you.

    1. Insure with collectinsure.com Best policy for cards. Be careful with homeowners/renters policies- they often won't cover you past a very minimal point.

    2. Buy a heavy duty safe. A full size one runs around 1500-2000.

    3. Rent a safety deposit box(s), scan everything and put them online so you can see them, and visit your cards often. I have unsupervised visitation with mine every other Saturday.

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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think every insurance company is gonna be a little different about this.

    Some will only insure up to a certain amount to the original policy and will require additional insurance which can be expensive. There are companies that insure cards but not sure about how much it costs?

    Do you have individual cards worth in the thousands?

    If so - then a safety deposit box would be good insurance in your situation.

    I've got my head in the sand on this topic - and I should be more proactive about it.

    mike
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I have unsupervised visitation with mine every other Saturday. >>

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    Mike
  • Guru,

    Since that guy who got his cards stolen posted his thread here, i've gotten a safety deposite box, which is very cheap for the year, I paid a hundred and change. An alarm system and insurance dosen't do anything really, somebody can still steal your cards, and the insurance can only get you money, if you can prove what was stolen of course. Insurance companies are fast to tell you your protected, but then when you get robbed, they give you the run around!

    A safety deposite box in the other hand is the best way, you can sleep at night and go away knowing your cards are safe. Sure you want to desplay your cards, and look at them, and some people would say that they would rather have it home because thats what collecting is all about. But since when do you look at all your cards every single day? Sure I used to look at them all day every day, but then you start to slow down. Its not like you don't look at them no more, but you just slow down a bit.

    So, why not just get a safety deposite box, and take your cards out whenever you wana see them? Say, like on the weekends, or whenever you feel like it. Don't get a box a million miles from your house, get one thats convinient to you. It makes it more exicting to see your cards after not seing them for a while. Its like going on a million dates, then it starts to get borring, same thing with cards, lol. You gotta space it out a little bit, so thats how a safety deposite box would come in handy.

    After all, its not the insurance money you want if you get robbed. You want your cards that probably can't get replaced, forget the money!

    Get a box man, thats all image

    Giovanni
  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    Insurance from CIA is affordable.
    It will cover your EBAY sales in transit, too.

    A cheap SENTRY safe will resist all but the worst fires.

    VERY expensive stuff should be kept at the bank.
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  • get yourself a good sized home safe that you stick in a closet out of site somewhere. There are some really good ones out there for less than $500 (I paid less than $300 for my 250lb)
    If someone breaks in, they are not going to haul away a 200-300lb safe
    and they are not going to spend the time trying to blow it up image
    Most thieves are opportunistic, they go after what is visible and easily available and easy to cart off.
    If you don't advertise the fact that you have $1000's of dollars worth of cards to anyone, they won't know about it.

    That way, you have peace of mind, and can look at your babies anytime you wish

    Warning: Do NOT attempt to store your family jewels in the safe, it hurts like hell when you close and lock the door


  • << <i> Pretty soon we will be moving the Indy area. Any suggestions? >>



    Greenwood (suburb) would be a solid bet. Don't tell anybody the value of your collection.
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  • << <i>get yourself a good sized home safe that you stick in a closet out of site somewhere. There are some really good ones out there for less than $500 (I paid less than $300 for my 250lb)
    If someone breaks in, they are not going to haul away a 200-300lb safe
    and they are not going to spend the time trying to blow it up image
    Most thieves are opportunistic, they go after what is visible and easily available and easy to cart off.
    If you don't advertise the fact that you have $1000's of dollars worth of cards to anyone, they won't know about it.

    That way, you have peace of mind, and can look at your babies anytime you wish >>



    But thats just the thing. A part of collecting is sharing your collection with others, so people will know that you have cards after all. If somebody wants your cards, I don't care how much your safe weights. You can have a 5 thousand pound safe, but if somebody wants whats in it, then there gona get it one way or the other.

    With a safety deposite box, you can see it anytime you want anyway. Sure you gotta drive there to get them lol, but its all worth it in the long run. Bottom line, if they want that safe, closet or no closet, they'll take the whole closet if they really want it. Be smart, buy Dodge image

    Giovanni
  • Everyones needs are different, I probably don't have as huge a collection as you do. Mine is probably worth not more than about $5000-$6000
    I don't have a Honus Wagner, Or a Babe Ruth or a Mickey Mantle, nor a Michael Jordan
    Hell I don't even have the most expensive Sidney Crosby
    My needs are a lot less than many other collectors here, but it serves me well. Everyone needs to look at their own personal needs and decide from there.
  • metalmikemetalmike Posts: 2,152 ✭✭
    Buy a mean dog who doesn't like thieves
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  • Well, I'm going through this right now. My house was broken into last Saturday and a bunch of stuff was stolen (couple laptops, golf clubs, some jewelry, raw and graded baseball cards and slabbed comic books). My homeowners insurance would only cover up to $1000 for baseball cards per my agent. She is looking into if the language also covers all sports cards or only baseball cards since that was the only sport mentioned. I only have about $5k worth of raw sets and graded cards that I've collected since 1978, so I might be screwed getting anything back on some of the cards that I'm missing. The insurance also covers up to $10k for electronics and no set amount for comic book (thank goodness, since I have over 10k invested in comics).
    I meet up with her next week to go over my losses and to see how much of a check they will cut for me.
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    MY father in law had a foster kid that was stealing his cards and also some meds. I bought him a fireproof gun safe. VERY heavy and as close to impossible to break into as you will find.

    It's about 5' high and 3' wide/deep. Big enough for most collections.

    Cost around $900 or so on sale, he's more than happy with it. I think you can get them cheaper if you take your time and watch for deals. Hasn't lost a card since I gave it to him.
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  • I think all the options mentioned so far are viable, depending on what's important to you.
    If the safe isn't one of those huge honkers, make sure to attach it to the floor. the smaller ones typically have instructions for mounting. follow them. I bought a smaller safe for documents but it weighs about 100lbs. That's nothing to some meth head looking for a quick score. Might take them an hour to break into it, but they can do it away from my house! I'd also say to put it somewhere that these guys wouldnt look first - I literally thought about a spot in my garage. But once its connected into the concrete (with the concrete screws in an epoxy base to boot) the safe isnt going anywhere.

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  • kidzfundkidzfund Posts: 565 ✭✭✭
    I need to look into this as well. I don't display my cards because my kids have friends over all the time. I keep my cards in binders/boxes in the closets so they're not visible. It's almost like I have to sneak around to enjoy them. My homeowners policy limits coverage so I need to look into the card insurance or a safe.

    Joe
  • When I'm not home it's a couple of gun safes plus a couple of these....

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    When I am home it is the same plus one of these...

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  • bxbbxb Posts: 805 ✭✭
    Collectibles Insurance Services is the way to go.

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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    I got one of these about a year ago:

    Large safe

    You can find these for under 1K at the local sporting goods store..I think Sam's sells them as well...I paid $800ish for mine which included delivery...

    I installed shelving inside for my cards and important documents. It is 5 ft tall and 600 lbs...Combined with my monitored alarm, not so nice ( to strangers) dog and Texas Castle Doctrine I feel better about keeping my cards at home than I would at a bank...lol

    My weapon of choice...

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    Jason
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  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    The safe I bought looks a lot like Jason's gun safe. Different brand, same idea.

    If you go that way, before you break any things that may be important to you, you can rent an appliance dolly at u-haul for about $10 a day. GREAT investment.
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