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PSA/DNA question concerning Auto Pen auto's...

Anybody ever submit a card to get authenticated and slabbed and have PSA refuse to authenticate it because it was signed by an auto-pen?

I'm considering buying an uncertified Auto and LOOKS legit, but I have a feeling it's an Auto-pen... I don't have possession of the card yet,
just wondering if anyone has ever experienced a denial due to auto-pen before.

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  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Well if it is an autopen, it will be rejected.

    However, there are more than a few autopens that have gotten through, so...
  • what's an "auto-pen?" It sounds like a motorized pen that signs for somebody, like in the future. Seriously though, I don't know that term.
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  • storm888storm888 Posts: 11,701 ✭✭✭
    An Autopen is a machine for automatically signing a signature as an autograph.


    History

    The first autopens were developed by an Englishman named John Isaac Hawkins. Hawkins received a US patent for his device in 1803. In 1804, Thomas Jefferson began using the device extensively. This early device was known at the time as a polygraph—an abstracted version of the pantograph—bearing little resemblance to today's autopens in design or operation.

    Harry Truman is believed to have been the first United States President to use the autopen as a way of responding to mail and signing cheques. Autopen devices are used today by politicians and fundraisers to sign letters to constituents written by administrative assistants and clerical staff, and by celebrities such as movie stars, music stars and astronauts to sign photographs. A company named Studio Fanmail uses autopens to reproduce celebrity autographs onto pictures of the celebrity.

    Today's autopens are often used to allow someone to be in two places at once. A politician can be travelling while his staff sign letters on his behalf. Donald Rumsfeld admitted using an autopen to sign letters to the family of people killed in action. When questioned on the subject, he stated it was inappropriate and began to sign the letters personally.

    Further developing the class of devices known as autopens, Canadian author Margaret Atwood developed a device called the Longpen, which allows audio and video conversation between the fan and author while a book is being signed remotely.


    Mechanism

    The first step in using an autopen machine is to have a metal "matrix" of the signature made. This matrix is then loaded into the machine and signing can commence.

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  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭
    Its not too high tec
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    I do know Thomas Jefferson had a version of it. He copied all his letters. It worked just like a Key copier.
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  • JeremyDie1JeremyDie1 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭


    << <i>An Autopen is a machine for automatically signing a signature as an autograph.


    History

    The first autopens were developed by an Englishman named John Isaac Hawkins. Hawkins received a US patent for his device in 1803. In 1804, Thomas Jefferson began using the device extensively. This early device was known at the time as a polygraph—an abstracted version of the pantograph—bearing little resemblance to today's autopens in design or operation.

    Harry Truman is believed to have been the first United States President to use the autopen as a way of responding to mail and signing cheques. Autopen devices are used today by politicians and fundraisers to sign letters to constituents written by administrative assistants and clerical staff, and by celebrities such as movie stars, music stars and astronauts to sign photographs. A company named Studio Fanmail uses autopens to reproduce celebrity autographs onto pictures of the celebrity.

    Today's autopens are often used to allow someone to be in two places at once. A politician can be travelling while his staff sign letters on his behalf. Donald Rumsfeld admitted using an autopen to sign letters to the family of people killed in action. When questioned on the subject, he stated it was inappropriate and began to sign the letters personally.

    Further developing the class of devices known as autopens, Canadian author Margaret Atwood developed a device called the Longpen, which allows audio and video conversation between the fan and author while a book is being signed remotely.


    Mechanism

    The first step in using an autopen machine is to have a metal "matrix" of the signature made. This matrix is then loaded into the machine and signing can commence. >>




    Exactly. It will replicate a players handwriting.
  • Reese3333Reese3333 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭
    I've had a Pete Rozelle autograph rejected because it was an autopen.


    Who is the signature of? Do you have a scan?
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