Anyone who uses Wagglepop needs to be popped.. It is nothing more than an elaborate scam operation. The owner of the site was kicked off Ebay for selling fake autographs several years back. First time they tried to lauch all their Credit Card files got "hacked"
Getting tired of buying and selling on Ebay & was wondering if anyone used any of the other sites. I've been checking some of the other sites for a few months now and it doesn't seem like there is a lot of activity on any of the others ...yet.
Ebay's fee increase doesn't seem to make it worth the while selling the less expensive ones, especially when you tack on the Pay-Pal fees.
I would love to create a auction house just like eBay for Sports only if there are any interested people in financing the venture give me a ring. I think if it is done right and through my figures tracking eBay sales they make about $400+$500K a month on this one sector.
"I would love to create a auction house just like eBay for Sports only if there are any interested people in financing the venture give me a ring. I think if it is done right and through my figures tracking eBay sales they make about $400+$500K a month on this one sector."
One could easily spend $1M on advertising in the first year, and STILL fail.
Buyers will ONLY go where the sellers are. The sellers will not leave EBAY - in large numbers - for a start-up that is run by anybody other than google.
Take a look at the WagglePop business model. The software to set it up costs less than $1,000.00; you can buy it at BestBuy. His 2006 relaunch quickly attracted almost 1000 sellers. In less than one-year, he was down to about 100.
Many sellers have been burned by jumping ship at EBAY, and have ended up returning.
I am not saying it cannot be done, but it would require investors that were willing to spend money for a long time without any kind of reasonable assurance that the money could be recouped.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
The key is having product to sell constantly and promoting the site via the trade shows and collector magazines. Make some deals with the big sellers by giving them free listing s for the first 6 months. As well with VCP our members have created their Want Lists so with the new auctions they will all be getting emails for cards they are looking to add to their collections. It would not be easy task to make it work but all the tools are there and the time is right. The key is to stay with Sports only and not getting into everything like video games, cars, stuffed animals, etc... specialize and stay there and make it the best. This community is fairly tight and word would get out fast and think it could be done in the $300K area. Keep it an auction format and not have millions of overpriced cards clogging the site like Naxcom.
If 10,000 card-sellers moved to a new site - and still kept an EBAY presence - the new site would fail quickly.
As long as sellers say, "I am going to try this new site, but keep my EBAY presence until I see how it works," buyers will NEVER leave EBAY; there is no reason for them to.
THAT is what has caused google to stay out of the mix.
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EBAY is trading at a PE of 110. It is priced like a growth stock - at $28 - when there are real questions as to whether it is EVEN a value-stock. When it drops below $12, google or private money will likely take it out.
I never naysay entrepreneurial ideas. But, if competing against EBAY was a viable concept, folks richer than us would already be succeeding at it.
Folks Who Bite Get Bitten. Folks Who Don't Bite Get Eaten.
Thanks for the replies. I was just curious if anyone else sold cards elsewhere than the big E. I've looked through some of the other venues and there didn't seem to be many sales going on. On that note, I also noticed that a lot of the items on common cards were grossly overpriced .... or for at least the ones I know about. That is enough in it own to scare traffic away.
I threw up a few cards on ecrater since its free just to test the traffic. Have some 74-75 ABA cards with prices I have no idea about. Searched the web and kind of split the difference on most. I'm a baseball collector so I really know nothing about the BB or Fb cards. We'll see what kind of traffic comes through in the next month or so.
Anyway .... Like to say thanks again to all the replies. Gives me more options to look through!
I would love to see a site like that go up. Storm is right though it would take 10 to 20 of the biggest hitters to completely renounce Ebay and go to this site at the same time. On top of that it would take a lot of the lesser guys to follow. There would have to be an announcement long beforehand to drive collectors to the site and to keep them there. Would be very hard to do in giving too much away free because what would stop them from just leaving after their time ran up? Very interesting concept though.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. " ~Frank Sinatra
i used to use sold.com ,a site out of australia that was good to sell stuff ebay wont let you, but, ebay boughti it and shut it down, ebay pretty well has a monopoly like rockefeller did with standard oil , there s epier but theres nothing there either,yahoo quit,
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Anyone who uses Wagglepop needs to be popped.. It is nothing more than an elaborate scam operation. The owner of the site was kicked off Ebay for selling fake autographs several years back. First time they tried to lauch all their Credit Card files got "hacked"
Getting tired of buying and selling on Ebay & was wondering if anyone used any of the other sites. I've been checking some of the other sites for a few months now and it doesn't seem like there is a lot of activity on any of the others ...yet.
Ebay's fee increase doesn't seem to make it worth the while selling the less expensive ones, especially when you tack on the Pay-Pal fees.
TOTAL ghost town.
You can read about sundry auction sites at
tuliptools.com
http://www.specialistauctions.com/categories.php?parent=8703
I would love to create a auction house just like eBay for Sports only if there are any interested people in financing the venture give me a ring. I think if it is done right and through my figures tracking eBay sales they make about $400+$500K a month on this one sector.
Bobby
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It is an extremely complex undertaking.
One could easily spend $1M on advertising in the first year,
and STILL fail.
Buyers will ONLY go where the sellers are. The sellers will
not leave EBAY - in large numbers - for a start-up that is
run by anybody other than google.
Take a look at the WagglePop business model. The software
to set it up costs less than $1,000.00; you can buy it at
BestBuy. His 2006 relaunch quickly attracted almost 1000
sellers. In less than one-year, he was down to about 100.
Many sellers have been burned by jumping ship at EBAY,
and have ended up returning.
I am not saying it cannot be done, but it would require
investors that were willing to spend money for a long
time without any kind of reasonable assurance that
the money could be recouped.
kept an EBAY presence - the new site would fail quickly.
As long as sellers say, "I am going to try this new site,
but keep my EBAY presence until I see how it works,"
buyers will NEVER leave EBAY; there is no reason for
them to.
THAT is what has caused google to stay out of the mix.
//////////////////
EBAY is trading at a PE of 110. It is priced like a growth stock -
at $28 - when there are real questions as to whether it is EVEN
a value-stock. When it drops below $12, google or private money
will likely take it out.
I never naysay entrepreneurial ideas. But, if competing against
EBAY was a viable concept, folks richer than us would already
be succeeding at it.
Giovanni
I threw up a few cards on ecrater since its free just to test the traffic. Have some 74-75 ABA cards with prices I have no idea about. Searched the web and kind of split the difference on most. I'm a baseball collector so I really know nothing about the BB or Fb cards. We'll see what kind of traffic comes through in the next month or so.
Anyway .... Like to say thanks again to all the replies. Gives me more options to look through!
Have a great evening!
wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're
going to feel all day. "
~Frank Sinatra