Exhibits Questions

Tedw9 · February 16, 2008 2:39AM

Hey All,

I wanted a few opinions on Exhibit cards. Do you consider Exhibits to be "cards" where as they are much bigger than standard cards? And would you consider a players card his rookie card if in the set? Why do you think they are valued at so much less than a regular card counterpart?

I am thinking of doing the 1939 set in PSA holders because it is a small set that would be fairly reasonable to put together compared to sets from the same eras. I thought I would just throw the questions out there to see what everyones thoughts were. Any and all replies appreciated.

BigDaddyBowman · February 16, 2008 3:03AM

I think exhibits are great....very nice looking....I consider them cards and you can get them for a pretty reasonable price which is great. Why are they valued less? Demand for them is lower than regular issued cards...less collectors of them = less value. I also beleive that many of them were distributed over multiple years, which means the supply of them might be a little higher than demand. I have a few of the football players Baugh, Bulldog Turner, and Cahrlie Trippi...they display well. They look great in an SGC holder by the way.

Stone193 · February 16, 2008 3:25AM

Ted

I know nothing about them but really do like them. I do have a 50s era exhibit vending machine and a few display cards that go in them.

Here's a Mantle one - it's cropped - the whole thing wouldn't fit on my scanner - now it's framed. It's from the '47-66 set.

The '39 set is the Salutation set - correct? Very nice.

I like the '21 set - kind of expensive but small enough that I would take it on and has a bunch of totally affordable prewar HOF'ers.

Good luck on the set.
mike

edit: I'm not sure if the size affects the popularity of the set - I consider them "cards" - I think they've picked up some steam over the years tho. The lack of color may have an effect on the popularity also. But anything prewar seems to be attracting lots of collectors.
So - who knows - if you're looking for an underappreciated area? This just may be the place?

Tedw9 · February 16, 2008 3:47AM

Thanks for the replies guys.

I agree with you BDB, some exhibit cards are easy to find, especially the post war sets. And I do believe the oddball size keeps them from catching on. I do prefer the look of SGC holders, but most cards seem to be in PSA holders. Either company is fine with me as I think both are first rate.

Stone, that display is incredible! I would love to see a picture of the vending machine if you could ever post it. I would love to lay my hands on one. And yes, I am interested in the Salutation set, as it is only 83 cards with variations according to VCP. A very reasonable sized set and priced where an ordinary schmuck like me can afford to pick up a few here and there. I just started with my first one, a Ted Williams with 9 showing. It is only graded PSA 2, but it seems to be a fairly rare card as I've been searching all morning without finding any others.

I agree with you about them picking up steam over the past few years. VCP had just a few of the Ted's with 9 showing priced, one of which sold for 10X within a year or so. I'm sure that is an exception, not the norm, but it does show that collectors may not be overlooking this set much longer. Either way, it will be fun for me to chase and complete.

Edited to ask: Can anyone give me the population of the Williams with 9 showing? I would much appreciate it.

Ladder7 · February 16, 2008 4:35AM

Hey #9,

I like the '20s thru '35 Exhibits. I believe ESCO was inconsistant with distribution., Some '39-'47 examples appeared in the '48-'66 series. Also the '48 HOF set and others, had been reprinted in the early 80s, I believe which makes it difficult to authenticate... PSA refuses to grade any Exhibits that aren't baseball. Overall, later Exhibits are a challenge to date accurately for novice collectors.

For affordability and player variety though, they can't be beat.

My favs; 1921, 1931-32 "4 in 1"

Stone193 · February 16, 2008 6:16AM

That's a great Ruth picture!

The original photo for it sold in the last Lelands auction - it was a "news service photo" which is more rare than a wire service, e.g. since it's made by the company who supplies "file" photos to magazines, newspapers and wire photo services in need of a good shot to accompany their article.

Wish I had copied the picture since Lelands doesn't archive photos - just the auction results.

mike

ryaneversole · February 16, 2008 6:23AM

I definitely dig em.

Ladder7 · February 16, 2008 6:33AM

Thanks Mike, There may be others, but I believe this is the only photo card of Ruth playing CF that I recall. The '21s are nice clear images.

Another favorite, I believe this is from a news photo as well. The inked outline and brushed contrast background enhanced the image for newsprint. The old time Constable and vintage water cooler are classics.

gotsparks09 · February 16, 2008 6:56AM

<< <i>I think exhibits are great....very nice looking....I consider them cards and you can get them for a pretty reasonable price which is great. Why are they valued less? Demand for them is lower than regular issued cards...less collectors of them = less value. I also beleive that many of them were distributed over multiple years, which means the supply of them might be a little higher than demand. I have a few of the football players Baugh, Bulldog Turner, and Cahrlie Trippi...they display well. They look great in an SGC holder by the way. >>

Big Daddy got it right. They ARE considered cards by most collectors (as opposed to stuff like felts, matchbooks, etc. which are often debated). They're plentiful, too, so the demand doesn't always meet the supply. But they're great looking vintage cards either way. Good luck with your set! It should prove to be fun for both you and your wallet.

HoofHearted · March 22, 2008 3:02AM

Could someone recommend a good source of information on Exhibit cards?? I've got a few that I'd like to categorize for my Senators/Twins type collection.

I'd LOVE to have that WJohnson, Ladder7!! I'm going to have to put in an eBay search for that card!

Here are a couple more I'd like to learn more about:

Exhibit(?) (year?) of Cecil Travis:

Unknown type of blank-backed card of Cecil Travis:

Aha! I just found some documentation on the card above. It's a 1936 National Chicle card -- not an Exhibit...

Ladder7 · March 22, 2008 3:30AM

Mike, Sorry, your photos aren't comin up. Try relinking... Adam from Net54 has a terrific site dedicated to many Exhibits. He knows his stuff;

Exhibits, exhibit

HoofHearted · March 22, 2008 3:37AM

<< <i>Mike, Sorry, your photos aren't comin up. Try relinking... Adam from Net54 has a terrific site dedicated to many Exhibits. He knows his stuff;

Exhibits, exhibit

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Ladder7,
Thanks again for your help. Sorry for the bad links. I discovered I had already scanned and uploaded the cards above. I deleted the pics I had originally linked to. Try to reload this thread and you should see them.

Thank you for the Exhibit exhibit also! It's VERY informative and should help me to label what I've got more accurately!

Ladder7 · March 22, 2008 3:50AM

seems like a '48-66 Exh and an '36 R313 Nat'l Chicle -okay, you beat me to it.

The Wide Pens (Goudey and Nat'l Ch) from '36 have some of the most interesting and best clarity of any others from that time and except for DiMaggio, they're still dirt cheap. Also inexpensive, the R311 premiums, though large and considered photos have amazing detail.

Joe D in rookie camp in Fla Pete before being assigned jersey #9;

Tedw9 · March 22, 2008 5:28AM

Here is another site to help you figure out which range of years the cards were made.

Century Old Cards

HoofHearted · March 22, 2008 9:06AM

<< <i>Here is another site to help you figure out which range of years the cards were made.

Century Old Cards >>

Tedw9,

Another awesome source of Exhibit info. Thank you!

BTW, do you have a wantlist for Carl Willey items? I've some '60s stuff I could go through if I had an idea what you needed.

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