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Catching an ebayclown (ras3172) in a lie.....

CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
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So I message a guy with a bunch of star basketball team sets and ask him if he has a few sets that I need (84 Jazz, Rockets, 76ers, Celtics). He says he does and asks me to make an offer. I offer $200 which is admittedly a little bit of a lowball offer, but it never hurts to ask. He messages me back this:

i have sold several of these over the past couple months- i have sold about 6 of these bags for between $100-150 each. if you can buy them for what you are asking- go for it because that is a deal! and they are selling for a lot more than they have over the past 2 years- i just sold a bulls jordan bag for $1800- i just sold a 84 76ers bag and jazz bag for $150 each.

Now, I have ebay marketplace research which allows me to go back 3 months, so I find his auctions and respond with:

Now you're just lying to me.

Here's your $150 Jazz bag: http://cgi.ebay.com/JOHN-STOCKTON-ROOKIE-84-85-STAR-JAZZ-UNOPENED-TEAM-BAG_W0QQitemZ130187819055QQcategoryZ28094QQssPageNameZMKTRSRCH:CLIST:ITQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

And your $150 76ers bag: http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARLES-BARKLEY-ROOKIE-STAR-84-85-SIXERS-UNOPENED-BAG_W0QQitemZ130190352888QQihZ003QQcategoryZ28094QQssPageNameZMKTRSRCH:CLIST:ITQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Thanks for being blatantly dishonest. I just added you to the list of people I will never buy from. Good luck with your dishonest business practices.


If you don't feel like going to the links, he sold a 76ers bag for $120 and a Jazz bag for $76. I just hate people who lie to make themselves sound like reasonable human beings, when in fact the lies they make up tell the story of who they truly are.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 31,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Typical for some guys trying to make money, someday they will realize that it does pay to be honest more often than not.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    lets go knock out his tooth leeimage tell him ya just ut him on a place where everybody thinks he sucks,just dont tell him where lol-he might know kung fu like that last crazy guy with the 83 topps sandberg that was going to own us because he had a norman bates dress and was bioplar-remember him???? image
  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭✭
    This is the kind of stuff that bugs me. Why is it that so many people stretch the truth to their advantage so often? It's so common on ebay that we tend to overlook a lot of it. I try to be as honest as possible on ebay, and don't even care to sale raw cards due to the fact that it is hard to be 100% fair and honest with raw cards.
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭
    Links for the lazy:

    Jazz Bag

    76ers Bag
    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How can someone thats been here 3 years know how to do bold type, but not post a link. Offer the guy fair money next time cheapo.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    I watched an episode of that new show called Moment of Truth or something like that, where they ask people questions and if the polygraph says they're lying, they lose. So, all you have to do is tell the truth and you win a lot of money and people still can't do it. How freaking crazy is this world where you get rewarded for telling the truth? Shouldn't it just be natural?
  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I watched an episode of that new show called Moment of Truth or something like that, where they ask people questions and if the polygraph says they're lying, they lose. So, all you have to do is tell the truth and you win a lot of money and people still can't do it. How freaking crazy is this world where you get rewarded for telling the truth? Shouldn't it just be natural? >>




    Did you watch last night, when it was an obvious yes or no answer and the polygraph said he was lying? I truly believe he was telling the truth and the machine got it wrong. The producers know ahead of time which of the 50 questions each contestant got wrong. Then they arrange the questions so that somewhere between the 12th and 16th question, there is a wrong answer.

    In my opinion, the only way to win that game is to purposely answer a question or two wrong in the initial 50 questions, and then change your answers to the correct answers if and when they come up in the actual show. This would be the only way to be able to keep the producers on their toes.
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    >

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  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    aw man , i forgot about that, i wanted to see that too
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Awesome response from said butthole:

    you are such a douce bag!!! get a life- and good luck trying to rob people- you are now added to my blocked list- i do not need to justify myself to a moron like your self- $200 for these bags-- what an insult-- you are such an idiot!!!if you are going to look at my history go through it all- look it up a---hole!!!
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like he has a pretty good read on you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Why is it that so many people stretch the truth to their advantage so often?


    Then when called on it they claim you misunderstood them or you were on meds.

    I agree, just once I'd like to open up an auction and not have to read so much BS.

    I want only the facts and nothing else.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    haha

    Lee I got the fleers today. I was pleased to see the virgin mailer they were in haha.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Thanks Nick, I can always count on your support. Anyway, I told the jackass about this thread just to ruffle his feathers a little more. All I did was make a lowball offer (if you consider 70% of what they're worth lowball) to see if he'd bite, and if he responded at all reasonably, I would've upped my offer. Instead he comes back at me and says he's sold these at ridiculously unreal prices and I called him out on it. I love when people get caught in lies then get upset at the people who caught them. Kind of like in poker when I snap off someone's bluff and they go crazy asking how I could make such a bad call.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Lee

    At least he replied with a coherent sentence. Some guys do everything but.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Lee - you're such an a-hole. Why would you go through someones feedback to bust them in a lie? What does it prove? That you have time on your hands? This guy probably sold a hundred of these for $150 each and you found one example where he didn't. Ask him... I bet he's sold a hundred, maybe a thousand. Next time, make a reasonable offer of at least 75%. You're so cheap. Always trying to get deals and whatnot. You should be ashamed.











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  • jrinckjrinck Posts: 1,321 ✭✭
    In the end, the buyer ALWAYS sets the price. ALWAYS.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    I also hate when a seller has a price in mind that they want for something but asks the buyer to make an offer. Like any buyer is going to offer more than market value for anything. If you have an idea of what a fair offer is, then make that your asking price. I hate haggling like I'm at a flea market in 1989.
  • onlyanumberonlyanumber Posts: 2,433
    You know I'm going to have to make him an offer for $195 now...
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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