Need help with this Yankees autographed Baseball

I have a Yankees autographed baseball that I'd like to sell. What do you think I can get for it? What's the best way to sell it? It has the signatures of Mantle, Berra, Ford, Bauer, Gene Woodling, Joe Collins, and one more that I can't make out. The unique thing about this ball is that it's a Brooklyn Dodgers baseball. My dad received it as a gift when he was a kid. I'd like to sell it and buy baseball cards with the proceeds. Would be interested in hearing the group's thoughts on the value. Also, can anyone make out the other signature (it's the one below Ford and above Joe Collins). See the images below. Many thanks for your advice.









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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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<< <i>Thats Mickey Mouse, not Mickey Mantle >>
Did you have this signed by him yourself, or you bought it that way? If you did have it signed yourself, then what year?
Giovanni
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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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Giovanni
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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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You could send it to PSA/DNA, but I would not be optimistic.
Giovanni
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Great looking cards, lucky you
Giovanni
Value is about $100 even with a bad Mantle.
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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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<< <i>Thanks for your comments. How you can be so sure? My dad's had the ball since the mid-50's. If it was signed by someone else, it was done back then. I just can't believe it considering back then, cards/memorabilia wasn't a hight dollar industry. There woud have been no reason to forge. How could some of the sigs be real, and ony the Mantle false. I know I'm new on the boards, and there are lots of frauds out there, but I'm not one of them..A long time member of the board julen23 can vouch for that...As to the ball, I'm just gonna send it in to PSA..I did a google search and found a few sigs that look close. >>
Do you have those pictures from your Google search? I would love to compare them
Giovanni
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54 & 55 Bowman
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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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<< <i>Thanks for your comments. How you can be so sure? My dad's had the ball since the mid-50's. If it was signed by someone else, it was done back then. I just can't believe it considering back then, cards/memorabilia wasn't a hight dollar industry. There woud have been no reason to forge. How could some of the sigs be real, and ony the Mantle false. I know I'm new on the boards, and there are lots of frauds out there, but I'm not one of them..A long time member of the board julen23 can vouch for that...As to the ball, I'm just gonna send it in to PSA..I did a google search and found a few sigs that look close. >>
Here's a direct cut and paste from the PSA/DNA website that explains that it was quite a common practice for there to be clubhouse signatures and real signatures mixed on a ball.
"Keep in mind that clubhouse autographs are approached in a different manner when evaluating team signed baseballs. For clarification, clubhouse autographs are those that were made by a bat boy, ball boy or other clubhouse attendant for a particular team. It was very common for team employees to forge player autographs on team signed baseballs. In many cases, while many of the autographs on a baseball may indeed be authentic, some player autographs may be of the clubhouse variety due to player unavailability, etc.
While clubhouse signatures will be identified on the PSA/DNA letters of authenticity, they may not hinder the overall grade of a baseball since their existence is fairly common and the autographs were not forged in a malicious manner. Severity and eye-appeal may be factors but, generally speaking, the grader approaches clubhouse autographs as if they did not exist on the baseball."
Mike
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I agree.
BUT, I would still send it to PSA/DNA, if it was mine.
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I can't tell well enough from the picture who was below the Ford, but I do see Ed Lopat just below Bauer, which wasn't identified in your original post.
Mantle and Stengel were the 2 most common signatures to be done by the clubhouse attendant for the '50s Yankees.
Nick
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FYI, the 56 cards are duplicates and I'm looking to trade or sell them.
Thanks,
Kiko
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Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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perhaps need flash on when taking picture of your ball, it's blurry as hell.
i am no prognosticator for mantle anything, but i would definitely get it authenticated.
whatever happened to your psa 10 "all ball mccall" collection?
J
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Giovanni
54 & 55 Bowman
55, 56, 58, & 60 Topps.
Have lots of cards, including some PSAs, 53-58 to trade.
Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
YOU DON'T RUN ON ROBERTO CLEMENTE!!!
<< <i>Thanks for everyone's comments. You guys sound like you know what you're talking about, and that's why I posted the question. Don't necessarily like the answer I got, but as they say - It is what it is! I know cards pretty well, but I know nothing about autographs, and I wasn't aware of the "clubhouse" autograph. I'll go ahead and send it in at some point see if PSA/DNA confirms what you are telling me.
FYI, the 56 cards are duplicates and I'm looking to trade or sell them.
Thanks,
Kiko >>
So assuming you guys are right and the Mantle is a "Clubhouse sig", but the Ford, Berra, et al are authenticated by PSA/DNA, what do you think I could get for the ball (this was the original purpose of my post - to find out the true value of the ball)
THANKS
54 & 55 Bowman
55, 56, 58, & 60 Topps.
Have lots of cards, including some PSAs, 53-58 to trade.
Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
YOU DON'T RUN ON ROBERTO CLEMENTE!!!
<< <i>Thanks for everyone's comments. You guys sound like you know what you're talking about, and that's why I posted the question. Don't necessarily like the answer I got, but as they say - It is what it is! I know cards pretty well, but I know nothing about autographs, and I wasn't aware of the "clubhouse" autograph. I'll go ahead and send it in at some point see if PSA/DNA confirms what you are telling me.
FYI, the 56 cards are duplicates and I'm looking to trade or sell them.
Thanks,
Kiko >>
So assuming you guys are right and the Mantle is a "Clubhouse sig", but the Ford, Berra, et al are authenticated by PSA/DNA, what do you think I could get for the ball (this was the original purpose of my post - to find out the true value of the ball)
THANKS
54 & 55 Bowman
55, 56, 58, & 60 Topps.
Have lots of cards, including some PSAs, 53-58 to trade.
Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
YOU DON'T RUN ON ROBERTO CLEMENTE!!!
You might try using a scanner with the lid open to get better pics. My camera has a button that lets me get good closeups, that and good lighting makes a big difference.
Also if you list it on ebay you can pay psa a few bucks for "quick opinion" but if you're going to do that then get some better pics so they can see what they're looking at. Otherwise you're wasting your money.
The name below whitey ford's name is gil mcdougald as far as I can tell.
How did you dad store it?
54 & 55 Bowman
55, 56, 58, & 60 Topps.
Have lots of cards, including some PSAs, 53-58 to trade.
Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
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<< <i>So assuming you guys are right and the Mantle is a "Clubhouse sig", but the Ford, Berra, et al are authenticated by PSA/DNA, what do you think I could get for the ball (this was the original purpose of my post - to find out the true value of the ball) >>
It's not likely you'll cover the PSA/DNA auth fee...unless the Mantle gets the OK. As far as Yankees go, Berra and Ford are relatively easy to get and the fact you you have a non-official league ball, possible one, maybe two bad clubhouse sigs...it really devalues the ball. It sucks, but that's the way the market is now. If you do believe the Mantle is good it will cost you $150-175 to play the lottery. If you lose, you're out the fees and maybe you break even selling the ball but at any rate you are out the value of the ball as it is.
Take Jimq112's advice and get some better photos/scans, post it on eBay for $5000 and then request a quick opinion from PSA/DNA. Your total outlay is less than $20 and you at least have an idea of where they stand.
Tell you how tough the autograph market is...I have a signature cut of a 19th century Baseball Hall of Famers. There are probably less than two dozen known signatures of this guy around. I think there is a good chance it is good but I can't sell it as is, no one will touch it without PSA or JSA provenance. PSA/DNA wants $250 to authenticate it. If it comes back good I probably have a signature that is worth as much as $15000. If not, I'm out $250 and I still can't sell the thing. All based on someone's opinion of a signature that there aren't many exemplars around.
54 & 55 Bowman
55, 56, 58, & 60 Topps.
Have lots of cards, including some PSAs, 53-58 to trade.
Also, have Football 55-57 to trade for BB cards.
YOU DON'T RUN ON ROBERTO CLEMENTE!!!
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<< <i>So assuming you guys are right and the Mantle is a "Clubhouse sig", but the Ford, Berra, et al are authenticated by PSA/DNA, what do you think I could get for the ball (this was the original purpose of my post - to find out the true value of the ball) >>
It's not likely you'll cover the PSA/DNA auth fee...unless the Mantle gets the OK. As far as Yankees go, Berra and Ford are relatively easy to get and the fact you you have a non-official league ball, possible one, maybe two bad clubhouse sigs...it really devalues the ball. It sucks, but that's the way the market is now. If you do believe the Mantle is good it will cost you $150-175 to play the lottery. If you lose, you're out the fees and maybe you break even selling the ball but at any rate you are out the value of the ball as it is.
Take Jimq112's advice and get some better photos/scans, post it on eBay for $5000 and then request a quick opinion from PSA/DNA. Your total outlay is less than $20 and you at least have an idea of where they stand.
Tell you how tough the autograph market is...I have a signature cut of a 19th century Baseball Hall of Famers. There are probably less than two dozen known signatures of this guy around. I think there is a good chance it is good but I can't sell it as is, no one will touch it without PSA or JSA provenance. PSA/DNA wants $250 to authenticate it. If it comes back good I probably have a signature that is worth as much as $15000. If not, I'm out $250 and I still can't sell the thing. All based on someone's opinion of a signature that there aren't many exemplars around. >>
Come on, you can't tease like that...who's the HOFer??