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Mint Error Disapointment & Disapointment whom ever handles proof coins at Mint.

Just got a call from Ngc, I had a Montana statehood error quarter that I thought was looked different. The Ngc grader today chatted with me and went over what he thought and I thought, although the machine clipped/chip/scraped part of the plancet metal this is a common mistake from the mint and my coin is not a error persay. These quarters are usally thrown out into a rejected bin, but my coin got put into the holder anyway.

Next problem the Ngc specialist did ask me if I saw the color and hue change on the reverse near the letters at 1:00, I told him I didn't noticed it, he told me that some bozo had somekind of kind of liquid soap on his hands and made a nice tip of a finger print on the coin. Now what type of fluk would handle coins like that at the mint? I guess he washed his hands after finishing up in the bathroom and went back to work packing proof clad statehood without gloves.

Very costly submission and very costly proof set that was ruin.

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    My understanding is the Mint uses gloves when the coins struck for collectors are handled. Sorry to hear about your outcome. Perhaps posting a picture would have helped you get an objective opinion before you decide to submit a coin.
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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    Here is coin.
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    itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    YaHa,
    The picture is kind of tough to make out (both are the same file). It looks like a metal shaving extra? What type error did you think it was?

    Could the finger print have occurred after the mint?
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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>YaHa,
    The picture is kind of tough to make out (both are the same file). It looks like a metal shaving extra? What type error did you think it was?

    Could the finger print have occurred after the mint? >>



    Pretty good guess but no on both. What I thought and also the NGC grader told me is that it was a piece of yes of metal shaving but became part of the coin. He was on the phone with me asking could he try to flick it off or pull it off with special tools while he had me on the phone, I gave him the ok. The outcome was simple, he said although the machine that cut the quarter originally the rim was clipped in such a way that the shaving is part of the coin. I hope you understand.

    Next theory of the residue on the reverse, you tell me, if a mint employee places coins into the government holder by hand and seals the 5 coin statehood quarter set in plastic, ships it to me, then I open up the plastic holder, cut the cardboard around the quarter which the Montana clad coin was in, and then place it into a plastic sleeve/coin flip with rubber gloves on, how do you think the coin would have hand wash soap or something to that effect?

    Thanks for the opinions. I still thought it would be a MINT error because the machine sliced the rim edge that is now part of the coin. I guess I am stupid!
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    redsreds Posts: 262


    Why in the world would the grader want to remove what is essentially a retained struck through or rim burr . At least that's what it sounds like to me
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    IMO If the mint failed to throw this in a rejected bin where it should have gone then it is a "mint error" Have you looked into a review of this at #2?


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    YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>IMO If the mint failed to throw this in a rejected bin where it should have gone then it is a "mint error" Have you looked into a review of this at #2? >>



    I will do this when I get the coin back, Although I like NGC I see on my invoice for the coins I just had slabbed that I got a Pr 69 but I told the grader to send it back to me just the way it was, I think when he told me that they could wash it or chem it and then slab it, I told him to send it back to me just the way it was.

    Any other company that I should send it too?

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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I still love this mint error!!!

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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Next theory of the residue on the reverse, you tell me, if a mint employee places coins into the government holder by hand and seals the 5 coin statehood quarter set in plastic, ships it to me, then I open up the plastic holder, cut the cardboard around the quarter which the Montana clad coin was in, and then place it into a plastic sleeve/coin flip with rubber gloves on, how do you think the coin would have hand wash soap or something to that effect? >>

    The NGC employee? The rubber gloves?

    I do not know if it is worth the effort trying to get it slabbed as an error. If it is, it is. The plastic is just a confidence booster unless you want it for a graded set (I like graded Ike Errors and dream of building a MS set of error only!)
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    66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    Hey Marty,

    Is there a 'catchy' name for that error?

    There was one for the 'minuteman' a while back, and now I'm curious about that oneimage
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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Ngc specialist


    I'm begining to think this is an oxymoron. image
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