Crossovers from BVG to PSA - pretty even?
Charlie9
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Just wondered how crossovers have gone from BVG to PSA. Is it generally pretty much the same, does PSA go a grade higher or lower than BVG would? Just looking at buying some to crossover but wondered what past crossover experiences have been??
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1957 Topps PSA
1961 Fleer SGC
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1957 Topps PSA
1961 Fleer SGC
1957 Topps PSA
1961 Fleer SGC
The few times I see them on the sets I collect I generally bid at the value of a 2 grade drop- assuming the card even looks good to begin with.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
when i say .5 I mean BVG 6.5 to a PSA 7. and 7's to 8's.
I guess it depends on the person grading.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P+S, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
Quarters: 61D, 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
I actualy cracked the card out of the BVG case first, and then sent in in raw, and got that 6
I think if I were to send it in with the BVG holder, it probably would have came back a PSA 5.
It was a 1934 Goudey #79 Eddie Durham, by the way. I have the pisture of the card in both holders.
Giovanni
<< <i>Yeah I have worked with BGS crossovers but I am pretty unfamiliar with BVG and how they crossover so I'm looking for any experiences with those. Anyone? >>
Not much experience, but I remember a BVG 6 Leaf Johnny Mize ended up in a PSA 7 holder.
James
<< <i>I sent in several of the earlier BVG cards with the subgrades to PSA. All came back with higher grades. I had a 56 Mantle go from a BVG 4.5 to a PSA 7.
James >>
Yep!
Giovanni
I know for a fact there were at least three nice Vintage cards that were subbed to PSA 3 times and rejected as trimmed then subbed to BGS and ended up encased with 2 8s and a 7.5. These were destroyed by a fire in late 2006. The 62 Mantle that came back 7.5 was an obvious hack job.
<< <i>Its not so much the grading of BGS/BVG that causes the issues. Its the slabbing of trimmed cards.
I know for a fact there were at least three nice Vintage cards that were subbed to PSA 3 times and rejected as trimmed then subbed to BGS and ended up encased with 2 8s and a 7.5. These were destroyed by a fire in late 2006. The 62 Mantle that came back 7.5 was an obvious hack job. >>
Yeah, but to be fair, BVG has also rejected two cards I sent in as "trimmed", but was subsequently regraded by PSA without any problems. The Parent below came back as a PSA 7. The other card was a '68 Orr from the same set.
<< <i>Its not so much the grading of BGS/BVG that causes the issues. Its the slabbing of trimmed cards.
I know for a fact there were at least three nice Vintage cards that were subbed to PSA 3 times and rejected as trimmed then subbed to BGS and ended up encased with 2 8s and a 7.5. These were destroyed by a fire in late 2006. The 62 Mantle that came back 7.5 was an obvious hack job. >>
perfect point....when beckett gets a nontrimmed card, they do a decent job grading it....but its the trimmed cards they let through that crushed them for me...
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<< <i>Its not so much the grading of BGS/BVG that causes the issues. Its the slabbing of trimmed cards.
I know for a fact there were at least three nice Vintage cards that were subbed to PSA 3 times and rejected as trimmed then subbed to BGS and ended up encased with 2 8s and a 7.5. These were destroyed by a fire in late 2006. The 62 Mantle that came back 7.5 was an obvious hack job. >>
perfect point....when beckett gets a nontrimmed card, they do a decent job grading it....but its the trimmed cards they let through that crushed them for me... >>
Yeah, But This can be said about BOTH companies did n't anybody see the thread started yesterday where a board member cracked out 14 Psa graded cards sent them to BVG and 4 were not holdered due to being restored? It got barried pretty quick so here's a link LINKY
Not one of these companies are perfect and anybody who thinks different is fooling themselves. There humans just like everone else and will make a mistake from time to time. If you go to the SGC boards they dog out PSA and BVG. You go to these boards some dog out BVG you go to the beckett boards some may dog out PSA and SGC.
Just like if you go to a corvette forum do you actually think anybody is going to talk up mustangs over there? Does this mean mustangs are all garbage? cause a corvette guy said so?