need help determining if these deserve a bump

mrbud60

any input out there would be appreciated. any of these deserve a bump? thanks, gil

MeteoriteGuy

The Clemente looks really good in your scans.

erinstubby

scan them on a black background.

WinPitcher

I can't see the corners, however the centering on all looks great. I'd give them a shot.

Good luck.


Steve

mrbud60

mmsportscards

bud


try scanning them with the scanner bed open in the dark and crop them as tight as possible or maybe do them 2 at a time. Just cant tell from here

perkdog

From the scans I think the Clemente's are deserving of a bump, tough call on the Koufax and Baur. Best of luck!

JasP24

JasP24

<< <i>From the scans I think the Clemente's are deserving of a bump, tough call on the Koufax and Baur. Best of luck! >>

RonBurgundy

I'd vote for the '60 Clemente only. The '61 looks slightly tilted.



Ron

ArnyVee

Ron beat me to it. I'd take the chance on the '60 Clemente also.

JasP24

<< <i>I'd vote for the '60 Clemente only. The '61 looks slightly tilted.

Ron >>



Will be interesting to see if "slight tilts" keep cards from bumping a half grade, even when the centering still falls into the high end of the PSA 8 scale.

We really won't know for about 6 more months..I sent some in on my half grade review sub with slight tilts. I'll be sure to post the results of what gets bumped and what doesn't (specifically WHY they did or did not get bumps..lol).

Jason

mbothner

I would send in anything with 50/50 centering for a bump. I think that is going to be the biggest factor. That is what will set a half grade ahead of other cards in the grade. As far as the corners, a PSA 7 is going to have some wear. It is not a PSA 8. And the same for PSA 8's.

JasP24

My thinking is that cards bumping the half grade will need to be exceptional in at least 2 categories. Centering, Corners, Surface/print/toning, Edges...JUST having PSA 9 or better qualities in one of those categories probably won't be enough in most cases. While PSA doesn't subgrade on the flips, they use the same process. So if you have 50/50 centering, you'll also need either PSA 9 quality corners (if it had this with 50/50 centering I would bet you could pull a full grade bump), or have very good color/low on print spots, or have flawless edging.

We'll know in a few weeks...lol

Jason

shagrotn77

The Clementes both look to have decent shots. I don't think so on the others.

Hubcap

I would wait on submitting for bump review until we see some online and in person that were bumped. Otherwise, you might be wasting your money. The only one getting rich here is PSA. The same thing happened with coins when submissions were down and MS in between grades were invented. The dealers had fun with that episode and I fear that the same will happen again for the big submitters and dealers, and not the little guy.

I also would suggest going to a major show and having a PSA dealer lend his opinion. Then again be prepared for a sales pitch. Alan Rosen is back in business at the front door.

JasP24

<< <i>I would wait on submitting for bump review until we see some online and in person that were bumped. Otherwise, you might be wasting your money. The only one getting rich here is PSA. The same thing happened with coins when submissions were down and MS in between grades were invented. The dealers had fun with that episode and I fear that the same will happen again for the big submitters and dealers, and not the little guy.

I also would suggest going to a major show and having a PSA dealer lend his opinion. Then again be prepared for a sales pitch. Alan Rosen is back in business at the front door. >>



My submission went out yesterday. Nice sampling of 60 cards, some locks for the half point, others probably unlikely. For me, nothing better than having an "in hand" source to judge future cards against as to what they are looking for and what they are not. Other than centering, it's going to be tough to tell the difference between an 8 and an 8.5 or a 7 and a 7.5 just using a typical ebay scan. I plan on using the service more in the future as this is the time when you can still find PSA 8.5 cards in PSA 8 holders. A couple of years from now, most 8.5 worthy cards will already be in the holders. Of course, I am only talking about cards worth sending in. A $20 PSA 8 isn't going increase in value enough to be worth the grading fees to go to 8.5. But a $500 PSA 8 that sells for $3,000 in PSA 9 is worth the grading fee gamble.


Problem with consulting with dealers is that many of them are more concerned with helping YOU only if it's going to help THEM in some kinda way. The opinions you receive will usually be heavily weighted towards their own agenda. Make sure you find a dealer that you TRUST won't try and tell you whatever it takes to put a few dollars in their pocket. Never forget, when it becomes their business before their hobby, money will be the primary objective.

Jason

WinPitcher

Jason good luck. Lets us know how you make out.


Steve

1960toppsguy

The 1961 is a bump, the other 3 are lucky to live where they do

bxb

I would submit them all except the Bauer (too much tilt).

They are all potential big money if upgraded so I think it is worth a chance.

I agree that centering will be the biggest factor in determining which cards get an upgrade - in fact the latest issue of SMR states as much.