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considering a game used bat by cobb or ruth would be extremely expensive, and also considering many people collect cards more so than memorabilia, I understand making a card which is more reasonable to own and would fit better into the card collectors collection....i do wish they made larger bat chips though, like those of sport kings.
I find most people that wouldnt want game used cards in their collection are the die-hard vintage only collectors. I, personally like all the different types of cards (vintage, game used, autos, modern rookies, etc...) Adding game used to ones collection makes it more diverse and exciting. I don't like to knock what others collect as it is all good. I personally don't get set collectors, (collecting all the cards of the same set, nevermind that you and everyone else has never heard of many of the players), but that is just me....to each their own.
Of course I felt the need to chime in after just winning this card...(grin)...
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<< <i>If anyone believes this cutup "memorabilia" crap is actually real, then I've got some swampland to offer you. Even if it was real, which in my opinion there's virtually no chance that it is real, it's not appetizing anyway destroyed and presented this way. A first class joke!
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Must be a set collector (grin)
As big a joke as spending thousands on cardboard...most people think those that spend thousands on rare comic books or buy pictures of baseball players on cardboard is a first class joke...
This is why I don't like to bash what any one collects. People collect what they enjoy collecting, and for someone to bash what another collects, especially when the one that is doing the bashing is just as nuts for wasting a great deal of their life by buying pieces of cardboard....talk about hippocracy or a first class joke, one should look in the mirror.
I, personally like buying it all...vintage, psa/dna, modern rookies, game used, minors, autos, even a few partial sets (with players i know)...
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<< <i>If anyone believes this cutup "memorabilia" crap is actually real, then I've got some swampland to offer you. Even if it was real, which in my opinion there's virtually no chance that it is real, it's not appetizing anyway destroyed and presented this way. A first class joke!
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Must be a set collector (grin)
As big a joke as spending thousands on cardboard...most people think those that buy pictures of baseball players on cardboard is a first class joke... >>
Terrible analogy. We're talking about what in my opinion is basically a scam with using Ruth or Cobb's name. There's really no way to verify that this stuff was actually used or owned by them. The estate owners could have picked up an old bat or shirt for cheap at a flea market and then state to Upper Deck that it belonged to Ruth or Cobb. Why should Upper Deck care what it is as long as they can make money?
This is basically a take on a similar age old scam of sellling pieces of wood from Christ's Cross - it's been said that enough wood has likely been sold over the ages claiming it was from Christ's Cross, that it could have built a fleet of ships.
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<< <i>If anyone believes this cutup "memorabilia" crap is actually real, then I've got some swampland to offer you. Even if it was real, which in my opinion there's virtually no chance that it is real, it's not appetizing anyway destroyed and presented this way. A first class joke!
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I agree!! Most of these companies purchase through auction houses, who sell TONS of fakes and NEVER respond to e-mails or take down auctions of proven fake memorabilia. That's why I personally only buy either direct from the team or through a player's marketing company.
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<< <i>nice card, but i think its stupid to cut up REAL memorabilia, real jerseys, bats and gloves and stick them on cards. Thats where the true value and sentiment are. >>
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In a way I agree with you , but at the same time it puts some of this memorabilia in the hands of some people that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford a complete bat or Jersey used by one of these giants .
Maybe they are using a bat or jerseys that are all beat up , Not that they still wouldn't be worth a fortune though . . .
That is a sweet card . .
<< <i>If anyone believes this cutup "memorabilia" crap is actually real, then I've got some swampland to offer you. Even if it was real, which in my opinion there's virtually no chance that it is real, it's not appetizing anyway destroyed and presented this way. A first class joke!
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I guess that the Babe Ruth home jersey that DLP bought a few years ago was fake. Yeah, I question some of the authenticity of some, but for someone to believe that all is not authentic is just plain lacking in sense.
Still a great card anyway, any piece will do, but they should stop getting cheap!
Giovanni
<< <i>Very nice card, but their getting a little to lite on the pieces they put on there. Why can't they put a huge pieve of one player that takes up almost the whole card? That would be cool, to be able to touch and feel the history in the piece of jersey
Still a great card anyway, any piece will do, but they should stop getting cheap!
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Oh yea sure, "touch and feel the history" from a "piece of jersey" bought cheap from an antique store. LOL
But if the illusion that Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb actually wore this shirt is worth it to ya...then it's worth it to ya.
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<< <i>If anyone believes this cutup "memorabilia" crap is actually real, then I've got some swampland to offer you. Even if it was real, which in my opinion there's virtually no chance that it is real, it's not appetizing anyway destroyed and presented this way. A first class joke!
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I guess that the Babe Ruth home jersey that DLP bought a few years ago was fake. Yeah, I question some of the authenticity of some, but for someone to believe that all is not authentic is just plain lacking in sense. >>
Who would ever state about memorabilia that "all is not authentic" - it's really lacking in sense to believe that anyone would think that.
We're talking about cutup memorabilia placed on a trading card in which profit is made by the sellers of the cards, in which my opinion with vintage memorabilia, there is no doubt that the vast majority, if not virtually all of the cutup product is fake.
Modern cutup memorabilia is different - most likely most of that is real, simply because it is easy to verify and can be reproduced over and over. But even then, any player could state that they wore a particular jersey in say the World Series, and really didn't.
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He does have a point though.
You mean my pc of the cross is fake?
What about my pc of the Arc?
Steve
<< <i>SteveK the resident skeptic.
He does have a point though.
You mean my pc of the cross is fake?
What about my pc of the Arc?
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As long as PSA has verified that it was Noah who signed the wood, then it's authentic.
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i bought it from Spielberg when he was done filming.
It seems like it would be impossible to authenticate. All an unscrupulous person would have to do is find a jersey or similar material from the time period and present it as game-used from whatever athlete they want.
How do we know this stuff is legit?
But say somebody wanted to buy the ball, even if the event was filmed on TV and taped on a VHS, whose to say I could just provide any NL ball from that year, maybe just a ball I picked up during a batting practice before the game.
The ways of fraud in memorabilia, especially vintage memorabilia, is virtually endless. Hey, again...if anyone wants to believe the illusion then go right ahead and spend your money on this fake crap - it's your money.
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I think that companies are going to great lengths these days to entice the buyer. Last summer I purchased a card on Ebay that I thought was a Ty Cobb memorbilia card. Instead it was an authentic piece of a stadium chair from Forbes Field where Cobb played. I thought that this is ridiculous.
I think to each his own on this one. I will say that there's nothing like opening a pack, if you rip and collect modern, to find a jewel like this one.