(Mark McGwire) This passed PSA/DNA and this (mine) failed the Quick Opinion?
Here's the story. I recently become met and have become good friends with a friend of Ozzie Smith (did you get all of that?). I know that may sound a little corny, but it's true. He has personally known Ozzie for several years. He has even promoted him at shows and different speaking engagements. I recently got to see this some of this man's personal collection with tons of Ozzie Smith memorabilia. He showed me personal checks from Ozzie to him. I may even get to meet Ozzie through him. We plan on trying to get Ozzie in for a card show that we may promote. He hasn't done it in a few years because his wife has been ill, but we are in the planning stages, but I digress. After we met, he told me that he has been wanting to thin out some of his collection and agreed to sell me some things very reasonable. He even has some "one of a kind" things that he is going to let me sell for him just to sort of test out.
Anyway, I bought a few items from him the other day. One of those items is a Mark McGwire single signed baseball. He obtained this through Ozzie Smith during the 1998 season. After I got the ball home, I wanted to see about the prospects of getting it authenticated at PSA/DNA. I found out that McGwire is $50. So, rather than spend the $50 at the beginning, I thought, let's just see about listing it on Ebay and getting a PSA/DNA Quick Opinion. Then, I will send it on to PSA/DNA.
Well, I did that yesterday. I was not too happy when it came back "Likely NOT Genuine."
Now, after that long story, here is my question. How did the following card pass PSA/DNA while my baseball failed the Quick Opinion? Be sure and check the auction of the ball below mine to compare it as well.
McGwire PSA/DNA card
My baseball


Now compare my baseball to this one that passed PSA/DNA. I think mine looks just as good.
PSA/DNA ball
Anyway, I bought a few items from him the other day. One of those items is a Mark McGwire single signed baseball. He obtained this through Ozzie Smith during the 1998 season. After I got the ball home, I wanted to see about the prospects of getting it authenticated at PSA/DNA. I found out that McGwire is $50. So, rather than spend the $50 at the beginning, I thought, let's just see about listing it on Ebay and getting a PSA/DNA Quick Opinion. Then, I will send it on to PSA/DNA.
Well, I did that yesterday. I was not too happy when it came back "Likely NOT Genuine."
Now, after that long story, here is my question. How did the following card pass PSA/DNA while my baseball failed the Quick Opinion? Be sure and check the auction of the ball below mine to compare it as well.
McGwire PSA/DNA card
My baseball


Now compare my baseball to this one that passed PSA/DNA. I think mine looks just as good.
PSA/DNA ball
Shane
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Marks M usually looks like a W at first glance....
<< <i>Hate to say it but I agree with PSA DNA.
Marks M usually looks like a W at first glance.... >>
If you look at the "M" in McGwire, it does look like a "W".
Plus, signatures do vary. I have a really hard time thinking this is a forgery knowing where it came from.
Shane
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<< <i>Hate to say it but I agree with PSA DNA.
Marks M usually looks like a W at first glance.... >>
If you look at the "M" in McGwire, it does look like a "W".
Plus, signatures do vary. I have a really hard time thinking this is a forgery knowing where it came from. >>
Then why did you post this and solicit opinions?
McGwire
Shane
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<< <i>Hate to say it but I agree with PSA DNA.
Marks M usually looks like a W at first glance.... >>
If you look at the "M" in McGwire, it does look like a "W".
Plus, signatures do vary. I have a really hard time thinking this is a forgery knowing where it came from. >>
Then why did you post this and solicit opinions? >>
Come on. I'm not trying to get into an argument. I'm just trying to make some sense of it have a discussion, and get several opinions.
Shane
McGwire ???
Shane
McGwire auto
My point in posting all of these is to show that signatures vary greatly. If I send it in to PSA/DNA will they give it a more extensive examination than the Quick Opinion, or is the Quick Opinion almost always right? Anyone with experience with this want to chime in?
Shane
But I bet if you pay PSA/DNA the $50 bucks to authenticate it would come back fine.
Can't answer about the quick opinion, never used it.
Maybe on your signed baseball they went with the start/stop on the right hand side. If I sign my name to a ball I sign like I usually do and don't start/stop in an odd place. It looks like whoever signed your ball stopped and started a lot.
I hope yours is authentic and that your new friend didn't try to slip one past you.
<< <i>I think you have to understand that the authenticity of a signature has to "stand on it's own two feet," regardless of the story behind it. A good story does not make a bad autograph good. >>
I understand that. However, as one posted just said, he has had signatures rejected that were signed right in front of him. I guess we would all agree that it is not an exact science. Even if you have something that you know is authentic, you still want the "experts' " approval.
Shane
i have no doubt that a high percentage of stuff incapsulated as authentic is bogus and an equal number that are submitted and rejected are 100% authentic.
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The FBI has stated that up to 75% of autos are fakes.
Steve
<< <i> I guess we would all agree that it is not an exact science. Even if you have something that you know is authentic, you still want the "experts' " approval. >>
No. Actually opinions are an exact science. That's why we all have one.
I'm sure we see the same inconsistency in authenticating autographs as we see in grading cards. How many cards are resubmitted for a better grade; how many autos are resubmitted because they are real. PSA makes more money that way. What's the mystery???
HOF SIGNED FOOTBALL RCS
Shane
excatly, depending on mood,speed,all kinds of stuff these so called experts you are sending it to,you are just paying for someones opinion anyways,if a news reporter can get one past james spence,im not real impressed with the whle system myself,if i owned the system, i would love it
J
While I'm at it, I might as well bring this one to your attention to get your opinion on this one. I will also start another thread about this one in guess the people who have previously posted in this thread have stopped looking.
What are your objective thoughts on this one?
Shane
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