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Perhaps my nicest Ionian coin so far

and the RR key date to the short lived (1834-1862) silver 30 lepta series, a 16mm coin.
1857 30L PCGS MS67, not to confuse with the very common 1862,(the only readily available Ionian), of which I saw three - four 65 examples at 4-5 different tables in NY.


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  • bosoxbosox Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful coin, Dimitri.
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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    One word WOW!!
    Another word...JEALOUS! hehehehe.
  • coinpicturescoinpictures Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭
    Gorgeous surfaces... and colorful toning to boot! image
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Beautiful coin, very interesting to see the places old Britannia shows up

    Dr J >>




    Thanks guys.

    Dr J, Britannia shows on every type coin of the Ionian islands, under British command from 1819 to 1862, after which they were kindly returned as a gift to a newly redefining borders ,fresh independent Greek state.
    There were 3 copper coins at 1819, slightly bigger than British farthings, half pennies and pennies, and a smaller copper coin, along with a silver 30L, similar to British 3ds from 1834 to 1862.
    Here's one example of all 5 types.

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    The two ones below from 1862, final year, (65RB and 65) are relatively easily found in high end shops, mostly in NGC holders:

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    Finally there's a 6th type coin, one year type, a very crude 1821 copper, overstruck on a Spanish late 18th century coin, which was BBed but I asked for the photo, a RRR piece.
    I'll edit this post and add its photo once and if received by Phil.


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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Well good, I see you're putting the .jpg on the URL. image

    Nice batch of coins, eh.image
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Mac, I think I fixed 5 out of 6 so far, going for the 6th now.
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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Simply amazing set! I don't think your latest addition can be topped image

    I'll be waiting to see the 1821 overstrike. Do you have any from the Venetian occupation?

    Edit: I just remembered.. my new icon is a 2 soldi from there. I don't actually own it, was underbidder, but it had great eye-appeal for the type so I stole the pics image
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Well Mac, certainly a nice batch. I'm now the proud owner of a complete Ionian date set, from 1819 to 1862. There were some proof issues from 1834 and 1862, mostly first and last date, but they were not official, I only have MS coins from this period, including three of each from 1862. The 1819 obol and 2 obol (second and third photo) are duplicates to my PCGS PR65RB pair, that the whole forum has seen from 2003. So I'll probably let go of these two. I'll also let go of the other silver key date, a dupe to this MS65, my Pittman 1848 30L PCGS MS62.
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks spoon, no I don't have any Venitian occupation ones, they're terribly expensive. I know of a good friend, basically a member of this forum, albeit a rare visitor, who would gladly post his. I only know of two collectors with examples of Venitian occupation coins in such condition as his.
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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Man! That would definitely make me drool image

    I've had a hard time even finding the Venetian ones for sale anywhere, in any condition!
  • MeijiMeiji Posts: 170 ✭✭
    WOW Nice coins Damn...image
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, Dimitri! Where's that jaw dropping icon when you need it? image
  • BSBS Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    Very nice collection.image
  • Fabulous, Dimitri!]
    I bet it's the world's best set!
    I can feel that ol' envy tickling...

    Tom

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  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    WOW! image
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,448 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice coins image

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  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭
    Gotta luv the dark side!

    Great coins Dimitri.
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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is quite a collection!!
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What MSD61 said.

    You have a package in the mail, Dimitri. Don't get terribly excited, though- it's just the long-promised "Dimitri Lunch Fund"- some face-value eurocoins I had stockpiled here, plus one of the new Liteside Washington dollars (with the lettered edge, not the "smoothie" error).

    PS- who knew Britannia was such a babe? Usually she's rather dowdy looking, but she's cute on some of those coins.

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  • ColinCMRColinCMR Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭
    Amazing.

    What does Kratos mean?
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all your nice comments. It wasn't until recently that an opportunity occured, and made it possible for me to have a complete date run in choice/gem MS and proof. I'm more of a type collector in everything else I do, but a British Ionian set is actually a total of just 20 coins.





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    What does Kratos mean? >>




    It means State. Ionikon Kratos means Ionian state in Greek.
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Finally, here's the photo of the 1821 coin, apparently overstruck on a Spanish old planchet, not coin. I believe scholars are having trouble to explain the 4 on the obverse, I need to check that. One of the finest 1821 examples in existence I was told.


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  • 3Mark3Mark Posts: 593 ✭✭✭
    D:

    Killer coins and a shame they didn't make it to NY so I could have played with themimage

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  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PS- who knew Britannia was such a babe? Usually she's rather dowdy looking, but she's cute on some of those coins >>


    I was thinking she looked like she was just a little preggers on a couple of the coins--mid second trimester-ish. Seriously though, what an amazing group of coins!

    Cathy

  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>PS- who knew Britannia was such a babe? Usually she's rather dowdy looking, but she's cute on some of those coins >>


    I was thinking she looked like she was just a little preggers on a couple of the coins--mid second trimester-ish. Seriously though, what an amazing group of coins!

    Cathy >>




    only you can say this......image


    Well Mac, certainly a nice batch

    Well, that's quite the understatement. image I've always loved that 'little Britannia' on these and the UK groats.
  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow!!! image Dimitri, your Ionian collection is amazing. The 1857 30 Lepta is gorgeous image
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    dayum nice coins!!!
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  • dcamp78dcamp78 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭
    Wow. Super nice.

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  • God, I love these coins!

    Dimitri, that 1821 piece is identified by Jerry Remick in his 1961 Commonwealth bible
    as 1/4 Obol, so my guess is that the 4 indicates that, as in "four to the Obol."

    Further: "...crudely struck usually on the planchet of a Turkish coin and so most specimens are not in the highest grades."

    He also mentions that Pridmore goes into more detail in his descriptions of the 1813-21 coinage, noted here (in Remick) only as countermarked over issues of Sicily and Spain.
    You probably knew all that, of course.

    (Except for West Indies, sorry to say, my Pridmores are all packed away...you want Vol. I, Europe.)

    God, I love these coins!

    Best to all ~
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    Further: "...crudely struck usually on the planchet of a Turkish coin and so most specimens are not in the highest grades."

    He also mentions that Pridmore goes into more detail in his descriptions of the 1813-21 coinage, noted here (in Remick) only as countermarked over issues of Sicily and Spain.
    You probably knew all that, of course.




    Not necessarilly, thank you very much. I thought that they were struck on a Spanish coin, not Turkish, but I have other sources than Pridmore, I need to check that out. I once heard that they could even be struck on a Geo III farthing, but that's unlikely. I'll definetely look into it and I don't mind for the bb. Scholars will tell you that the 1821 coin is the rarest and real treasure of this 20 coin submission. I'm glad with the 1857 30L PCGS MS67 too. image
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  • Hell, Dimitri, I'd be glad with ANY of them!
    Actually, I did have a pretty solid I.I. type set for some years, except for the 1821, all in nothing-special xf to mere unc, but they became part of my deaccessioning program back in the late 1980's. I guess the only ones I've missed more were the complete Gold Coast set, but chiefly because they were all blazers, one or more ex Steve Harvey.

    Be well ~
    Tom
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  • ColinCMRColinCMR Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭
    Very cool set, I got to see some great coins and learn something, thanks Syracusian
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