Want to take a crack at these tokens/coins?

BullRun

The 25 Pfennig with the miner that says"Gluck Auf" or "good luck to you" is made of aluminium. Date is 1920 from the now non existant city of Wattenscheid, Germany.
I am very facinated by this coin. I have no knowledge of it and no facts to believe this, but I think it might be very difficult to come by many more of these. Can anyone shed some light on it?

The Saarland, Germany 10 Franc coin (1954) also seems unusual. Does anyone know if the German states are in the habit of issuing their own coins or was this a private issue. It did not follow the Mark as the monetary unit, but rather the Franc. BTW, Saarland borders France, so maybe a little influence in using the Franc?

The last one appears to be a bank token. I don't know anything about this other than the 1885 date is probably not the date the coin was issued, but rather the founding of the bank, etc?

newsman

The Saarland coin was issued for a part of Germany that was under French occupation at the time. The aluminum coin is probably a Notgeld piece.

Sapyx

Yep, the French were reluctant to hand over their occupation zone when the British and American zones were combined to form West Germany. From the end of WWII up to 1957, the Saar Protectorate was basically an independent country, occupied by French troops. The Saar franken was on par with the old 4th Republic French franc. 10, 20, 50 and 100 franken coins were issued. Saarland has it's own listing in Krause; this coin is KM#1.

The octagonal aluminium one would qualify as a metal notgeld token, issued by the city of Wattenscheid. metal civic notgeld are listed in Coffing's checklist as common.

The third one isn't German. Dyrehavsbakken is an amusement park in Denmark. With the "25" denomination, the token is presumably some kind of theme park money. The official Danish 25 ore coin was holed like this from 1924 to 1947, and again from 1966 to 1988; this may provide a date range for the token. It's not listed in the Notgeld checklist.

lordmarcovan

One thing about clicking on an "ID help" topic, when seeing Sapyx as the last respondent, is that I know I'll have little to add.

(Of course, Newsman was here, too.)

I remember finding one of the Saarland pieces in a bulk lot in my early world coin collecting days, and being stumped by it. I finally did manage to find it in Krause, though.

tbirde56

Here's the info on the Danish token I got when I couldn't figure mine out:

Danish arcade token -23mm. Confirmation thanks to Lennart Fredericksen:
It is a 25 ore play money for a slot machine from "Bakken". 1885 is the date the company started. Magnetic (scarcer) and non-magnetic varieties.
http://www.thelastcall.dk/~erikoest/dk_info.htm#JaegersborgDyrehave_DK
Jægersborg Deer Park with Bakken (Dyrehavsbakken), on the island of Zealand. Dyrehaven (The Deer Park) is an enchanting and ancient forest situated near the sea at Klampenborg, to the north of Copenhagen. The very old Dyrehavsbakken is fondly referred to as "Bakken" (- "The Hill") by most Danes. Already from 1583 people came to visit the curative spring, Bakken is Europe's oldest amusement park. Just a little north of Copenhagen, it nestles in woodland, by a lake, close to the coast and Klampenborg station, only 15 minutes away from the centre of Copenhagen by bus, train or car. At Bakken you will find more than 100 attractions, almost 40 restaurants and cafes. Several places feature music and dancing. Bakken is more fun - and the entrance is always free.

My unholed version is near the bottom of this page:
Unknown Coins

lordmarcovan

(...Not to mention the King of Coin ID.)

BullRun

WOW, thanks for the info guys. I know I will always get friendly information and advice on this board.

My cursory search online did not reveal any of this information.
I will look up the Saarland coin in my Krause when I get home.

Does anyone know if Notgeld or tokens would be in the Krause Unusual World Coins book? I have one on order and am hoping to find stuff like this in that book.

Sapyx

<< <i>Does anyone know if Notgeld or tokens would be in the Krause Unusual World Coins book? I have one on order and am hoping to find stuff like this in that book. >>


No. You need specialised books for those.

The "Unusual" Krause book primarily contains fantasies (bogus coins from real countries), and unofficial coins (real coins from bogus countries).

tbirde56

Here's a NOTGELD SITE with notgeld for sale that provides a good comparitive reference as well. Your piece is listed near the bottom of the page.