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What do you hate most about ebay / sellers?
BassPro77
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One of the things that tics me off is some one selling a card for for hundreds or even thousands of dollars and charge a $8.00 shipping fee. you think for that much you would get free shipping. (a bulk order may be a different story, depending on the weight)
Bill
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
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I understand what you are saying, but just because a card sells for hundreds or even thousands, doesn't mean that the seller necessarily made a profit - then they still have to pay eBay and PayPal fees.
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I hear that, but when you have several hundred pos feedbacks, a few negs doesn't realy hurt.
I'm getting ready to leave a few negs my self. still waiting on three cards i bought early Dec, which I haven't recieved yet and when I asked if they were sent they said they were sent on this day which was 2 and 3 weeks later after payment. I then asked again why it took so long to send I never got a reply. I am still waiting for them dam things to show up.
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
So, no I don't hate this the most about sellers I could find other things I hate them for even more!
Steve
9 out of 10 times, if I don't like the shipping cost I won't even bid unless I REALLY want that card
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
You lost me on that one, what does the shipping amount have to do with that?
Steve
if you can't deal with ebay / pay pal fees, then don't sell
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Why I got to be a jerk?
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Just using your figures.
Steve
<< <i>Bill an ebay transaction for 1000.00 and an 8.00 shipping tab does not pay for the fees. It barely pays for the shipping I would imagine. >>
Exactly right! Using Steve's example, what if the seller bought the card too high and had $950.00 into it and only sold it for $1000.00? That sometimes happens. With eBay and PayPal fees, that seller has actually lost money on the sale. Is the seller supposed to throw in free shipping just because the item sold for $1K and loose even more money?
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Yeah, me too.
"Molon Labe"
I'm not saying anything of the sort! You did. I was simply showing (using your figures) that they will not pay the various fees. regardless of what they have into the card. A card sells for 1000.00 and the shipping is 8.00? That barely pays for the shipping!! I would assume a 1000.00 card is going at the least in a priority mail box? w/delivery confirmation added we are now at at least 7.00,(or 8.95 flat rate + DC) throw in some insurance and the cost of supplies and 8.00 is all but used up. Now if the seller takes your 1000.00 card and puts it into an envelope with a 41 cent stamp you have a beef.
Steve
edited to add: in your OP you said 'thousands of dollars" if that is the case then 8.00 you should be giddy with joy that, that is all the seller wants. Again regardless of what he has into the item.
or even start the bid high in sted of .99 cents or what ever. I know another ebay fee
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
lol I'm not sure why the fees are an issue. I thought it was strictly the shipping costs you disliked.
I think this thread has gone off from where it was originally intended.
IMO anyone selling items that fetch hundreds and or thousands of dollars is not worrying about the fees. They may worry about the Paypal fees and will not accept them, but that is another story all together. They get to sell a hi dollar item for basically peanuts and then they ask for a nominal amount to ship it and that chaps you?
You have lost me again.
Steve
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Steve
NOT putting Qualifier in title of auction (wasted wasted time)
overgrading or nOT mentiong creases/writing/paperloss( their defense is you should have asked before bidding)
This is a true story! A few years ago I moved into a new place and went right out to buy all new furniture. I was looking at spending about $10K. Then they told it was $100 to deliver and set up the furniture. I told them that since I was spending so much money they should throw in the delivery for free. They then explained to me how much it costs to operate and maintain delivery trucks, delivery drivers salaries, gas, insurance, etc, etc, etc. They told me that they actually loose money on each delivery, only offer it as a courtesy and would much rather the customer pick up the furniture rather than having it delivered. They then told me that if I wanted to pick it up myself from their warehouse, I could save myself the $100 delivery fee and they would also take an additional $100 off the ticket. I thought about it for a minute and they were absoultely right. I couldn't have gone and rented a U-Haul and hired somebody to help me carry it upstairs for $100. I gladly paid the $100 delivery fee. What does this have to do with sportscards? Absolutely nothing. But your OP stated that you feel just because you spend X amount of dollars, that you should get something for free (shipping). My point is it does not matter how much money you spend whether it's $100, $1000 or $10K, sometimes there are still other costs involved in doing business and why should the business have to eat them? When the post office starts offering free shipping, I'll start offering free shipping. Until then, it's just a cost associated with doing business.
Come on, you giving up?
how about a new subject?
what about over pricing? is that to make up the fees?
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
a card weighs a few ounces, a couch weighs a hundred pounds. big differance
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES!!!
Steve
Until then, it's just a cost associated with doing business. "
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ALL of my shipping is "FREE."
And, the BUYER pays for every cent of it. I never sell
anything for less than an amount that includes ALL of
my costs.
I list 95% medium-high BINs and 5% reserve-auctions.
WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES!!!>
I get the same thing being that my address is an APO ( American Post Office)
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
This thread has left the original topic and gone onto a bash of merchants and their prices. Again, if you dont like the price, INLCUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING...DO...NOT...BUY...IT
You think starbucks doesnt figure in their extra costs when charging you $4 for a cup of coffee?
You think Waffle House doesnt figure employee costs in?
Selling on ebay is a business, NOT a place for people to get something for nothing. Open a "brick and mortar" business location and see how much you pay in "fees", ie. shipping charges, utilities, rent, taxes, etc. etc. and you will see that the little amount you pay in shipping which may recover some fee charges for the seller is not that big of a deal.
I like what VTG said...when the USPS offers free shipping and handling, SO WILL I
its the thought that counts
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Steve
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
Steve
example
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
I ship everything that I'm going to insure UPS, costs a little more, but I'm up front about it, take it or leave it.
This was the funny joke you promised to make up for the recent misery, correct?
Your friend,
itz
Yes its true that i am in the UK. but I am in the Air Force which technicaly is a U.S. instalation. so I pay normal rates just like every one else. I have an APO address which stand for American Post Office. 41 Cents a stamp. just like you all
looking for PELLE LINDBERGH's psa and 1960 fleer baseball psa 8 and up
sets in progress
R.I.P. Barstow 24 April 1999 - May 15 2009
<< <i>One of the things that tics me off is some one selling a card for for hundreds or even thousands of dollars and charge a $8.00 shipping fee. you think for that much you would get free shipping. (a bulk order may be a different story, depending on the weight) >>
boy, some people get ticked off easily... $8 s/h for a card that sells for hundreds or thousands sounds like a GREAT s/h price to me...that won't even cover insurance. That s/h is very reasonable and would make me happy.
The thing i dislike the most in listings is reserves, and not disclosing the reserve....i won't even bother bidding unless it is something i REALLY want...i discourage any sellers from using reserves.
But the thing i dislike most about ebay at all, is buyers who complain for no reason. IF s/h is disclosed, there should be NO ZERO ZILCH complainin....calculate it into your bid.
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It certainly reduces the number of bids.
But, unless you want to risk giving expensive stuff away
to cheapskates and sharpshooters, it is the best way
to go.
<< <i><How people jack us on shipping up here to Alaska, or tell us they won't even ship to Alaska. For standard USPS the price is NO difference.
WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES!!!>
I get the same thing being that my address is an APO ( American Post Office) >>
I don't charge extra for APO or Alaska....but the USPS does. It has been a while since the USPS only used weight to figure your shipping, unless you are talking letters of course. Packages very depending on the distance.
Clear Skies,
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
8.00 on a thousand dollar card is cheap once you figure insurance in the equation..
Yes many sellers build their listings fees into their shipping. Its hard to include FVFs on most items, but I do include my actual listing fee and still charge less than alot of sellers do.
I can send an item weighing 1 pound 1 ounce to Houston for about 5.00, but to send that same package to Alaska or an APO it cost alot more.
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So, no I don't hate this the most about sellers I could find other things I hate them for even more!
Steve >>
Sellers who describe the item in one sentence or worse ZERO description
Not everyone knows what your selling, everyone isn't a veteran collector
Yet their terms of sale run up to 4 full pages
I'm not that interested in your TOS, I'm interested in the item for sale
I don't mind paying a fair shipping/handling fee
If it fit's into A flat rate Box I'm NOt paying $45 for u to ship it to me
Problem is too many sellers see shipping as a PROFIT center
Horrible Scans or Deceptive scans
Deceptive Title Listing i.e. A graded card is A PSA 8 but they fail to mention it's OC
Tell me that in the title so I don't waste my time having to read your listing to find this out
Draconian Terms of Sale
The whole deal is One Way, their Way
Atilla the Hun would be nicer to deal with
Take forever to Ship, Shipping is a Low priority for them, they ship whenever they have time
Poor Packaging, It's absolutely amazing stuff arrives in one piece how some people pack so poorly
Doesn't anyone use a box anymore to Ship?
If your selling a $1000 or more expensive card A Box would be nice
NO Invoice
99.9% of the sellers never send me any sales lists with my item, how dumb?
Sellers who do not reply to Inquiries or worse
when they do reply to a question they don't answer the question
One seller, I asked him 18 questions on a rare expensive card, he replied & didn't address even one question
Needless to say I didn't bid on the card
When they do reply they don't tell u what item they are referring to so u have no idea what the reply is referring to
They reply & fail to sign their Name
Were these cretins born without a Name?
How freakin rude !!!!!!!!!
Majority of sellers are so unprofessional, but I guess that's expected since a majority a not full time dealers but collectors or part-time dealers at best
At least try to be a Pro even if your not
But many big sellers are pathetic in how they run their Ebay business
they continue to survive in spite of being on the verge "clueless"
Anyone can go into business, that's easy
Staying in business is the tough part
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<< <i><How people jack us on shipping up here to Alaska, or tell us they won't even ship to Alaska. For standard USPS the price is NO difference.
WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES!!!>
I get the same thing being that my address is an APO ( American Post Office) >>
I don't charge extra for APO or Alaska....but the USPS does. It has been a while since the USPS only used weight to figure your shipping, unless you are talking letters of course. Packages very depending on the distance.
Clear Skies,
Mark >>
No they don't. Standard shipping is the same anywhere you mail a package. If you want to add on the extra stuff, Fed Ex, UPS, etc... than yeah, that'll cost you more, but regualr 1st class, or Priority, no difference.
I love it when people correct you with wrong information. I mail three times a week baseballjeff, so I know my mail stuff.
USPS Linky
Above is the USPS calculator, USPS website. Type in a 2 lb. package, first class mail, from 90210 (CA) to 12404 (NY) and the same 90210 to 67211 (KS)....you will see they are not the same rate.
This all changed last year when the rates changed.
Clear Skies,
Mark
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
<< <i>"No they don't."
I love it when people correct you with wrong information. I mail three times a week baseballjeff, so I know my mail stuff.
USPS Linky
Above is the USPS calculator, USPS website. Type in a 2 lb. package, first class mail, from 90210 (CA) to 12404 (NY) and the same 90210 to 67211 (KS)....you will see they are not the same rate.
This all changed last year when the rates changed.
Clear Skies,
Mark >>
Try it with a 10 oz. envelope. Clearly that would suffice a couple graded cards wrapped in bubble wrap, you'll clearly see priority mail is the same cost if you were to mail it to your neighboring state, or to us outsiders in Alaska. It's fine, people who charge us differently don't buy from them. No worries, we'll take our business else ware.
Jeff
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I'm not sure that is true any longer. I get a different rate charged to me depending on where I send it too.
Steve