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Is there a reason you don't participate in the PCGS set registry?

I noticed that PCGS has a few countries represented in it's set registry, and some countries have better participation than others. If your collecting country is represented, is there a reason you do or don't participate in the Registry Sets?

thanks!

Doug

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My interests are not represented. Generally I am a type collector, and I have not seen any attractive type set options (edit: on the Darkside, I mean), or I'd play. It was a US type set that originally got me into the Registry game, and what brought me to these forums long ago.

    Of course, my current collecting interest is in coins that PCGS will not grade or encapsulate, so there goes that idea. I like my ancient Romans raw, anyway.

    But if PCGS started grading ancients and offered an emperor type set on the Registry, similar to what I'm doing on my own, would I submit all my coins and play? Probably.

    Registry collecting was fun. Sure, it's blatant marketing and has its flaws, but I enjoyed it while I did it.

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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Even if my collection was represented , there is no way that I am going to place it in a registry set. Shear Vanity folly. An exellent place for thieves,conmen and the IRS to get your number.
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Given Victoria's 63-year reign, it's safe to say I'm only a Type collector. The only GB Type sets are for gold.image

    BJ Searles has said repeatedly over the last few years that they would have copper, bronze and silver type categories, but as yet this hasn't materialised.

    So, unless one is putting together a 63-year date run of a given denomination in copper or silver, there are no valid options. Specialists only need apply.


    And while Swiss date/denomination runs would be considerably easier to complete (80% or so) than Victorian, there is yet a Swiss Registry after over 4 years of "any day now".

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    good question... collectors have their reasons for choosing what they choose to do with respect to this. There are no right or wrong answers here

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  • I've fit some of my Japanese coins into the PCGS Japan Gold Type Set in their registry. There are, however, no provisions in the PCGS registry for any of the copper or silver pieces of Japan. I found NGC's signature sets help alleviate this somewhat by allowing me to define my own "Signature Sets". Their registry accepts PCGS graded coins as well as NGC graded coins, so this has not been an issue. Some of the older Asian coins are not graded by anyone, so I simply collect these raw.
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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm waiting for them to add Mexico to the official registry image For now this small showcase will do.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if PCGS will ever consider NGC coins for World Coin Registry sets

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  • << <i>I wonder if PCGS will ever consider NGC coins for World Coin Registry sets >>



    PCGS has stated many times that they will NOT allow NGC coins into their Registry Sets.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With the US Coin Registry, PCGS has maintained that position for a number of reasons, including the competitive nature of ratings and all that goes with that. I see the world registry sets as less competitive and perhaps an exception would be made to help generate more interest... just a thought... perhaps a thought whose time has come.

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  • There seem to be more NGC slabbed World coins, so maybe it's not a bad idea.
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't really want NGC-slabbed coins in PCGS registry, personally. NGC has a different standard when it comes to grading, plus I've noticed PCGS to be more consistent in theirs.
  • When or if they would add an Eddie VII coronation date set, I would be interested.








    Steve
  • Well I am an Australian collector. I am the one that kept emailing set registry and BJ Searls with a lot of possible sets. That is why, the Australian registry was started. Besides asking for the sets give them the coins and PCGS numbers that coincide with each coin. Persistence is the only reason that Australia got started. I emailed the kangaroo set every 6 months until it was finally created then started giving them all the other sets.

    One main reason set registry doesn't make the countries because you review the World Population Reports, which lists the coins that PCGS has graded, a lot of them don't have consistent coins graded to make any sets.

    Also, the set registry team maintains all the different registries for all of collector universe division.
  • ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    I don't participate because I don't understand the registry and how it works. Plus it sounds like a lot of money and hassle. I'm not that anal about things.
    Todd
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>I wouldn't really want NGC-slabbed coins in PCGS registry, personally. NGC has a different standard when it comes to grading, plus I've noticed PCGS to be more consistent in theirs. >>



    As far as consistency, i've seen the opposite.

  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>There seem to be more NGC slabbed World coins, so maybe it's not a bad idea. >>



    True. in major auctions, a majority of the slabbed rarities are graded by NGC. The upcoming Millenia auction is evidence of this.
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>There seem to be more NGC slabbed World coins, so maybe it's not a bad idea. >>



    True. in major auctions, a majority of the slabbed rarities are graded by NGC. The upcoming Millenia auction is evidence of this. >>




    Many of those "NGC" coins were, I believe, at one time in PCGS slabs. The rest were always raw. I can't wait to drool on every coin.image
  • DoogyDoogy Posts: 4,508


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>There seem to be more NGC slabbed World coins, so maybe it's not a bad idea. >>



    True. in major auctions, a majority of the slabbed rarities are graded by NGC. The upcoming Millenia auction is evidence of this. >>




    Many of those "NGC" coins were, I believe, at one time in PCGS slabs. The rest were always raw. I can't wait to drool on every coin.image >>



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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doogy, I will post my findings on portrait 8 Reales grading once I have enough data. But at least in that series, PCGS grading looks to be more consistent, so far.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Because I have zero interest in it.
  • I would. My only registry set is a set of Bingles. This is in my sig line because they are not known
    by many and people can learn some and generate interest. I currently have 23 Lithuanian coins
    1925-1938 in for grading,world economy received 12/3, I would enjoy seeing a registry set for these
    for similar reasons.
  • worldcoinguyworldcoinguy Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would. My only registry set is a set of Bingles. This is in my sig line because they are not known
    by many and people can learn some and generate interest. I currently have 23 Lithuanian coins
    1925-1938 in for grading,world economy received 12/3, I would enjoy seeing a registry set for these
    for similar reasons. >>



    Have you posted images of the Bingles before? I was unfamiliar with the term, so I just read the short history in your link. It is a fascinating mini-chapter in US numismatic history.
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joe - pretty cool set. Never heard about Bingles before.
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
    I'm not interested in it, for many of the same reasons already stated. 100 years from now, what difference will it make if you had the #1 set or not? To me, it's just not one of life's priorities.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • I play the registry game for my kid's year sets (mint and proof American), but not for anything else. I don't have many slabbed darkside coins and really don't care to get them slabbed. the only set that I could play in from what they have listed would be a date run of British coppers (1/2 cents) and it's really not that important to me to get the set slabbed (tho I could get the Elizabeth 1/2's slabbed and give Tony's set some competition.... image ).
    Cecil
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  • PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a reason you don't participate in the PCGS set registry? >>

    What is the "PCGS set registry" image


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  • my other complaint would be that they don't have any varieties in the copper sets and I have several varieties in my set
    Cecil
    Total Copper Nutcase - African, British Ships, Channel Islands!!!
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  • MSD61MSD61 Posts: 3,382
    I had a registry set here many moons ago of U.S. dollars but it just lost its appeal. I guess I did one just to say I the opportunity to have a registry set if that makes any sense at all.
  • ColinCMRColinCMR Posts: 1,482 ✭✭✭
    I'm with theboz11 on this one

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    Not just other collectors in your area may be interested in what you have
  • I'm thinking of going thru ANACS.................PCGS seem's to turn a blind eye when it come's to certain coin's..... I agree with Roman, When they list Mexico, I may consider it.
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  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    For my current primary focus - Conder tokens - PCGS currently only accepts for certification those few included in the Red Book.

    For my other sets - GB minors, I see that PCGS has now added registry sets for these coins - which was news to me, only a few sets registered to date. image
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  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭
    Well, a lot of what I collect isn't represented, a lot of what I do have (and like!) probably wouldn't slab, and from what I've seen of the registry sets, it's a game for the big money boys, and I am definitely not one of them. Boz points out another point concerning privacy and security. Believe me, it would be nice to own coins that would make a number one set of some kind, but I don't see the point in putting them into the registry.
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  • << <i>Because I have zero interest in it. >>

    Me too. Especially since you need to have your coins entombed in plastic to participate. image
    Roy


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  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have much people would be interested in looking at anyway, and I certainly don't need to be sucked into the drama that you KNOW surrounds such an undertaking.
    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Because I have zero interest in it. >>

    Me too. Especially since you need to have your coins entombed in plastic to participate. image >>



    ...and pay dearly for the privilege.

    Tried it a long time ago when I was collecting Morgan's (forgive me Lord for I have sinned)...I quit soon after learning it was for men with big mouths and no guts. Oh yeah, the Morgan's went bye-bye too...for obvious reasons.


  • << <i>Oh yeah, the Morgan's went bye-bye too...for obvious reasons. >>



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