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A challenge for those Latin scholars among you

wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
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No giveaway, but more of a question.

I'm no Latin scholar, but most of the translations of the British coin inscriptions have been based on Kings. How about Vicky?

Can someone correctly identify the full words in Latin and the English translation for those famous abbreviations?

VICTORIA.DEI.GRA.REGINA.FID.DEF.IND.IMP

I think I know what they are (in Latin), but am not sure about one of the words.
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  • Rickc300Rickc300 Posts: 876 ✭✭
    Victoria by the Grace of God, Queen of the British territories, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India
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  • ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    "Victoria, by the grace of God, Queen of Britain, Defender of the Faith, and Empress of India."
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  • ASUtoddASUtodd Posts: 1,312 ✭✭
    Hrmm when I replied there wasn't any other replies... Guess I'm about a minute and a half slow.
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  • Rickc300Rickc300 Posts: 876 ✭✭
    In Latin? Uhmmmm image Not a clue! image
    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed lamb contesting that vote. Benjamin Franklin - 1779

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    detecting find so far.
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    part. Go figure...
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
    The English is the easy part! image
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  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163
    Victoria Dei Gratia Regina Fidei Defensor Indiae Imperator, translated in English above.
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
    Doesn't Imperator = Emperor? The masculine?
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  • dan8402dan8402 Posts: 2,163


    << <i>Doesn't Imperator = Emperor? The masculine? >>



    Good call, for a male Imperator, for a female Imperatrix.

    So, the Latin is:

    Victoria Dei Gratia Regina Fidei Defensor Indiae Imperatrix

    Does that appear to be correct now?
  • Rickc300Rickc300 Posts: 876 ✭✭
    abs causa accipio explico accenseo?

    << <i>The English is the easy part! >>

    OK, time for bed! I just burned out the last couple of brain cells I had left awake trying that! (and it only took a half hour)! and I know it isn't right, I remember just enough to get myself in trouble while trying to look it up online...

    I'll check back later on tomorrow and see how bad I botched that...

    Rick
    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed lamb contesting that vote. Benjamin Franklin - 1779

    image
    1836 Capped Liberty
    dime. My oldest US
    detecting find so far.
    I dig almost every
    signal I get for the most
    part. Go figure...
  • LynchLynch Posts: 299
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  • LynchLynch Posts: 299
    Edited out because dan8402 has already correctly answered the question posed.image
    "Think of the Press as a great keyboard on which the Government can play" – Joseph Goebbels

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  • Rickc300Rickc300 Posts: 876 ✭✭
    OK, dog gone it I can't sleep! So I am back online and making a fool of myself... IMP. So that is either one or the other as far as I can tell but the IMP would be correct for either one or the other as far as rulers (I think)

    << <i>for a male Imperator, for a female Imperatrix. >>

    both are IMP as far as I am concerned in translations...

    Much like HMS as far as British warships! USS for American and AMB for Italian, I am sure there are others I don't know but would like to learn from this thread! (well at least I think I know some of the navy slang)! Got any others to share?

    Rick
    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Freedom is a well armed lamb contesting that vote. Benjamin Franklin - 1779

    image
    1836 Capped Liberty
    dime. My oldest US
    detecting find so far.
    I dig almost every
    signal I get for the most
    part. Go figure...
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭
    OK. Imperatrix looks good. My question was about "Defensor." Is there a feminine version of that or is it gender neutral?
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Fidei" is the one I didn't know.

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