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carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
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If you don't want other collectors opinions about a topic then don't pose your question on a public Message Board. If you need to single someone out for their personal opinion then send them a Private Message.

That will help us who don't warrant advising others, peace of mind.

Carlos


Sorry but I was just a tad insulted.

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  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    Carlos,

    Man...usually I have to start talking about someones mama before they go off like you.

    I didn't say that I DIDN'T want anyone elses opinion. Where did you read that? I did want the people's opinion that I asked...and I got it. So I suggest you get over it.

    <That will help us who don't warrant advising others, peace of mind.>

    I never said anyone didn't warrant advising others...you did. Dan "Dude" had an interesting take and offered it. I don't think my question is making him run up huge psychiatric bills because I didn't happen to include his name on the list. My guess is that he probably still has "peace of mind".

    If I ever need an opinion on "How long can I pick my nose before it starts bleeding?"...I will make sure that you're on the list.


    Regards,


    Alan
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Sorry but I was just a tad insulted.
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    Sorry that you were so insulted...there are two good ways to keep from being insulted.

    (1) Lower the value you place on your own opinions. Then it won't shock you to the point of being insulted if you aren't asked.
    (2) Raise the value that others place on your opinion. You could start by not letting trivial things like whether your name was on the list get you so bent out of shape.

    If my leaving you out has you insulted...I wonder if the guys I asked feel "honored"....I wouldn't bet on it!!!

    BTW - People on the boards mention certain specific individuals (in the topics) when posting quite often...


    Regards,


    Alan



  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    (1) Lower the value you place on your own opinions. Then it won't shock you to the point of being insulted if you aren't asked.(2) Raise the value that others place on your opinion. You could start by not letting trivial things like whether your name was on the list get you so bent out of shape.

    You are correct...Thank you.

    Carlos

    PS. Again..I'm sorry.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    I would be interested in finding out a little bit more about the nose-picking topic, myself.
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭
    David> Just remember. . .you can pick your friends. . .and you can pick your nose. . .but you can't pick your friends' noses.

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • 69topps869topps8 Posts: 261
    To assist in all this nose picking business, I have the following up for bids:

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    Take my word on it, this tissue is gem mint. All print blemishes are caused by the scanner. Sorry but it is sold "as is".
    Please visit my eBay auctions at gemint
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    Are those surface creases? And is that a front scan or a back scan?
  • skylaneflyerskylaneflyer Posts: 47
    Alan,

    What about me?

    Sky
    "Some people know the price of everything and the value of nothing"

    "Give me a reason to fly, and I'll be there"
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    I didn't intend to cause a ruckus, nor did I expect everyone to start checking each others nose.

    Being a new member to this board I didn't understand why only a few names were listed on a thread title.

    acowa has explained that... BTW - People on the boards mention certain specific individuals (in the topics) when posting quite often...

    And again I am sorry for my misinterpretation of the thread title.

    I was curious as to the contents of the thread especially after what z9856 said...

    There are a lot of new members who show a lot of promise and who will be excellent members of the forum. I truly welcome them. Having said that, there are a lot of threads on this forum coming from many new members that have nothing to do with the PSA Registry. These posts belong on the Sports Cards and Memorabilia Forum.

    I apologies to Alan for the misunderstanding. As I continue to learn all the idiosyncratic ways of this board I hope to be a better contributor to these threads.

    Unpretentiously,

    Carlos
  • thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Carkim, I think the question that Acowa asked on the other thread is related to his PSA set building, but you're absolutely correct - the question should really have been posed on the Sports Cards Board. Even veterans like Alan slip up once in a while.

    Also since Dude wasn't specifically asked to participate in Acowa's thread (nor was I) I actually felt special because I thought maybe I had made it into Dude-like company. image
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Me too! I was honored to be put in the same company of z9856 and
    dude!

    If I had a question z, I would always look for your opinion.
    Unfortunately, because my red man cards are both psa and sgc
    graded I have little to add to the registry forum. For now,
    I just sit back and listen!image

    aconte
  • zardoz51zardoz51 Posts: 1,168
    Oh, I think that we should allow leeway here. Whether you want to admit it or not, this board seems to be the home of the serious collector. The general board is a great venue for the young pups who are in a tizzy over pulling a refractorized, serial #'d, jersey, bat, stadium seat card, and finding out what the "book" on it is. This is not an area that the majority of us specialize in. I'm happy for them, but over there, many posts of merit have a tendancy to become lost in the fray. The other board is OK for fun and games, but here, collectively we are the enthusiasts for the registry and all that is associated with it.

    To say specifically that the post of Alan's belongs over there allows the riff-raff (bgs cultists) to attack PSA in their usual unwarranted fashion with cheap and insulting innuendoes. Rarely do they cross over to this side, I guess being literate helps, especially decyphering some of Vargha's strange posts (encrypted messages to his KGB connections?) I like the idea of posts of this nature being posted on this side of the fence. We have all had our contentious moments with PSA, and realize that they are not perfect, but from what I have seen, at least they are trying. Yes, we are the first to critisize when there is some aspect of PSA's operation, or an act of omission that has our feathers ruffled and posted here accordingly. However, the majority of the time, said critisizm is coupled with a constructive solution that PSA has often acted upon. Questions regarding a misgrade on a card necessary for a registry set belong here.

    All posted in my humble opinion. I shall now duck for cover as the insults will flow in my direction. In addition, I had better have my wife start the car in the morning from now on.




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  • thegemmintmanthegemmintman Posts: 3,101 ✭✭
    Zardoz51, I understand what you're saying and I basically agree with it - This board is the advanced class. On the other hand if the veterans of this board come on and post questions and concerns that are not truly Registry related, then we're just inviting more of the same from the newer members. Then it's just a second Sports Board which I think we all agree should be avoided.

    I'm certainly flexible on the topics that this board discusses as long as it's within the confines of the PSA Registry. If it's indirectly related to the Registry I think we should make allowances.

    If we all post non Registry items on the Sports Board (which we should do), they're still going to be answered by the regulars on this board. In other words if Alan had posted his thread on the Sports Board he would have still received the same answers from the same people, and at the same time the "virgin like" status of the PSA Registry Board would still be maintained and unviolated. image
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    z9856> and at the same time the "virgin like" status of the PSA Registry Board would still be maintained and unviolated. virgin and unviolated??? Are we still taking about the message board (That was supposed to be funny)

    Zardoz> I agree with what you are saying, I don't mind threads that may sway from the forum title. However, it was many vets that wanted this board to only about the PSA Set Registry. To me it does not matter one way or another.


    On a seperate point...I have received a few Private emails about this fiasco from collectors who feel like...There seems to be a bit of the "click" mentality, in that certain people can write anything and everyone fawns over it like it's so funny or so valuable to the collecting world. or Why the personal attack on you? Did you personally attack this guy once before? and finally, This board is for everyone, not just an elite few.

    As most of you already know my passion for card collecting (especially early 70's) boarders on insanity. Now THAT may make me "run up huge psychiatric bills". Anyways, I enjoy collecting, and discussing this hobby with others. I enjoy feedback from all collectors and would not want to ostracize anyone on a public message board. That alone WAS my point.

    I will again apologies to acowa for the misunderstanding. Let it be noted that I wasn't the only one who felt that way...I was the only one who said something.

    Carlos
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    "Point and click" mentality? Or maybe "clique" mentality. I have enough problems with my own mentality to worry about that of others.
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Vargha... I didn't want to edit the words of others.

    Or it that the KGB code Zardoz was talking about.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    I am not caring for this line of questioning comrade, errr . . . I mean, Carlos.
  • zardoz51zardoz51 Posts: 1,168
    Cliques?

    lets talk about the 1972 set clique...They're taking over this board!!! I'm going to have to start a 72 graded set just so I don't feel left out. LOL

    Seriously, there is no reason for any to feel alienated. This is probably the most level-headed, helpful board you will find anywhere.

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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    zardoz - when you say general board, which one do you mean? As i see it, the B/S/T board is dominated by those not yet old enough to legally buy alcohol (most of whom think Barry Bonds rookies are vintage). The Sports Memorabilia Forum is mainly vintage collectors, but with a significant number of people who focus on newer material (although most of them are familiar with older cards).

    Nick
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  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    ZARDOZ,

    There has been a falling out amongst the 1972 set collectors. The troups are no longer assembled and are primed for a take over.

    Carlos
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭
    The concept of cliques aside, I do find it interesting that the top six entrants on the 72T set registry are now reasonably active on the board. Is there another set with so many active participants?

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Gee, I don't get on-line for nearly 24 hours and low and behold, what a brouhaha!

    Quite honestly, I wasn't sure if my opinion was welcome (I assumed I was one of the "....." that followed the list of names (and I'm glad to see that my opinion was welcome), but as far as I'm concerned, if anyone posts anything on these message boards, it's open season for responses.

    I can recall on the old Message Board when the anti-PSA crowd pretty much took it over and it was a sad day when they were telling the pro-PSA to shut up and get off the Message Board. It's good these new ones are clearly the opposite and active members welcome all opinions, whether they agree with them or not.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Mike-

    I would say that there is a significant number of T-206 collectors, more of a clique than the 1972 Topps collectors here.

    Most of those collectors are on other boards -- but I learn a great deal of what I know from their collective experience. I swear each of them has about 20-30 years in the hobby! Speaking of which, Doug Allen and Art M. will have their T-206 book out in the next 2-3 months, and I am very much looking forward to anticipating it.

    When a 1972 Topps book gets published, I'll concede it as king :-)
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭
    Schmidt> Actually. . .www.1972topps.com will go live on 14 Feb.

    Mike

    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    Would someone please inform Charlie Merkel that collecting the 1951 Bowman set is totally uncool and that he should sell his PSA 9 cards from that set immediately?
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Mr. Vargha, of Varghabucks fame-

    Even if the 1951 Bowman set were uncool (you honestly think the set didn't get cooties once you listed your set in the Registry?), do you think that a lawyer with well over a million dollars ONLY in his 1950s graded cards would sell one set because it was suddenly uncool? Guys with that amount of coin really don't care about the whims of today and yesterday in terms of graded card coolness.

    Plus -- with the way you have been snapping up 9's recently, he is probably green with envy! You've added more 9's to your set in the last 2 months than I have even seen available for my set in the last 10 months!
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    As mentioned on my e-mail to you, two of those were pop. 1's so I know he will be ticked. One is a pop. 2 that he does not have and the other five he already has. My goal was to somehow pick up 12 PSA 9 commons this year from the set (one/month). I didn't think it was realistic, but here it is just January 19 and I have snagged eight already! It is truly a strange thing. I guess I more than paid him back for the pop. 2 common he out-sniped me on a couple of weeks back. His collection is phenomenal. If all he owned were the 1951 set, it would still be phenomenal. As it stands, it is truly a marvel. I would love to someday see it.
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    2 questions:

    (1)Who invited the 72 click (sic) to take over the thread? I am starting a website to compete with Mike's. It's call 1972topps-must-die.com. It will allow collectors to make obscene amounts of trashing of the set and those who collect it.

    (2)Do my posts have to be downgraded to "the other" boards until I display a better attitude?

    2 comments:

    The only reason I put the names on the post...was so I could make sure those guys saw the thread. I have reread everything and my post clearly does not say that ONLY those people are welcome.

    Carlos, I apologize for giving you a hard time...I don't go out of my way to do this (except in the case of joestalin). Obviously, we are both set building enthusiasts and I would value your opinion on any topic I post.


    Regards,


    Alan
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Alan,

    Thank you.

    I think it's safe to say we can all get back to the discussions of Set Collecting.

    Carlos
  • zardoz51zardoz51 Posts: 1,168
    Nick, my general board statement was essentially refering to the other boards, both B/S/T and the "regular" board. Often the line between them gets blurry, hence my additional quote re: quality posts having a tendancy to become lost in the fray.

    Carlos....dissention in the ranks?.....sounds like a trade gone sour.

    So the 1972 guys are really going to have their own website......Frankly, I'm envious. We, of the 1971 set collectors, are just a little behind the times otherwise we'd have one too! Being "behind the times" is rather a subtle statement. Several of our members regard color televisions as a passing fad that will never catch on .........................


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  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Zardoz> I would talk about it publicly but I promised to keep it in the family. (The 1972 family this is)

    Carlos
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    the pyschology department at the university of ohio must love this thread.
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  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭
    Zardoz> Well. . .there's nothing stopping you from going to your favorite ICANN-approved domain seller and buying 1971topps.com (or whatever) and putting in some work and getting your own site up.

    Yawie> That's really funny!

    Mike

    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Is it true that the 1971topps.com site will have a chipped black background?

    Nick
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  • zardoz51zardoz51 Posts: 1,168
    Nick,

    LOL...I was wondering just how long it would be before that sore subject would come up.
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  • 69topps869topps8 Posts: 261
    I don't think a website for '71 Topps will happen because we're all too broke from buying those $20-$30 commons to afford the domain name. image If it did happen, I understand there is a secret underground society that is hoarding all the PSA 9 '71s and they're prepared to hack the website to foil our attempts to put together a high grade set.

    By the way, I'm accepting donations for the $75 domain name fee.image
    Please visit my eBay auctions at gemint
  • zardoz51zardoz51 Posts: 1,168
    69Topps*

    Amen,

    Those guys you see along highways picking up aluminum cans are not homeless folks trying to earn a few bucks for a meal, but 71T Registry set collectors trying to get the funds to buy a common or two.
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  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    75 bucks for a domain name? They are readily available for $25-30 (total) for 2 years.
  • mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭
    That's what I was thinking. If you're really interested, check out www.dotster.com. They're $15/year or $28 for 2 years. Dotster is who I use, but if you shop around, there are places that will register them for even less.

    And to clarify - the 1972 Topps web site is being done by me and only me. As I have been putting it together, I have asked certain people for input/suggestions. Some of these people are building a 72 set and some are not. While the site will cater to the collector of 1972 Topps baseball cards - graded and ungraded - the site itself is not a group function. This is strictly my project.

    In monetary terms, the site is actually pretty inexpensive. $28 for 2 years of name registration + $15/month in web hosting fees. Since I already have the software (Illustrator, Photoshop, Acrobat Distiller, etc) I do not include those costs. However, that obviously doesn't cover the seemingly infinite amount of time spent on various pieces of the site - and the updating/maintenance the site will require. All I can say is I hope people like it because ultimately that will determine whether the time and effort was worth it.

    Mike

    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Thanks Mike.

    I know many of us are looking forward to 1972Topps.com's grand opening.

    Carlos
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