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Current Finest vs. All-Time Finest

solidsolid Posts: 2,975
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Let me first say that I haven't seen this happen, but a thought occurred to me, and I haven't seen anyone point this out before.

Let's say that you have the #2 current finest set of a particular collection, and that you also rank #2 all-time. You have a superb set and have earned your place in the rankings through hard work and building your set one coin at a time.

Now, suppose that the #1 set (The A Collection) is sold to another collector and retired. You are now #1 current, and The A Collection is still listed as #1 all-time.

Maybe a month or two passes, and the former #1 set is now re-registered by the new owner as "The B Collection". The coins are all the same as the former A Collection. The B Collection is now rightfully ranked #1 current finest, and you are back to the #2 spot.

But guess what, you now have the #3 finest all-time set because the #1 and #2 slots go to Collector A & B, even though it is the same set of coins!

Now, many times when a top set is sold, it will be dispersed among many collectors. Other times, it is kept intact perhaps with the new owner making some upgrades.

You certainly don't want to take anything away from someone that achieved a high position in the all-time rankings, but potentially someone could have the 2nd or 3rd or 4th best set ever assembled, while ranking (much) lower in the all-time list.

I guess the only way to avoid this is to be #1...

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  • pop1pop1 Posts: 234
    Something similar happened to me with the roosies. I simply asked Gayle to "pull" one of the two from the data base, thus eliminating the problem. I would assume that anyone in this position would do the same thing. image
  • solidsolid Posts: 2,975
    How can they pull one collector's set from the listings, just because they purchased it intact? I can understand if it is a duplicate listing from the same collector.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ken: Of course, as sets sell, many of the key coins become the key (identical) coins in many high ranking sets. Take, for example, the pop -1- 1932(p) Wash Quarter in PCGS-MS67. The coin started in the J. Benbow former #1 All-Time Finest set, moved along to the #1 set of R. Green (although he may have deleted it at some point, I don't recall), moved along to the former #2 All-Time Finest set of Registrycoin and when it sells again in the future, it may still be the pop -1- coin in a future all-time #1 set. Interestingly, if enough super low pop coins sell and resell to retired sets, it will become harder and harder to ever achieve a high ranking all-time set with one major exception. As new pop -0- coins are made, current collections have the advantage over all-time collections. So, in the end, maybe this all evens out? image Wondercoin.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,116 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It does seem unfair. The sets that mean the most to me are the Current All-time Finest. They're not sold and dispursed.
    Also, I notice on the All-time Finest sets that list current coins, they'll eventually lose ground when the new year coins are introduced and added to the sets.
    I've already seen this happen to the All-time Finest Kennedy set (Matt's old set).

    peacockcoins

  • pop1pop1 Posts: 234
    That's true. I have a set of Kennedys and Pf and ms state qtrs. with a grade percentage above most others, but, without updating with the 2001s and 2002s, they will just continue to fall and fall. If it were up to me, I'd just delete these sets also, but that's jmho.
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