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Wiped or Woodgrain...You Decide.

With a great degree of confidence, I believe this coin to be woodgrained. However, P-mint Lincolns are not known for woodgrain planchets.

What say you?

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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I thought that woodgraining came from alloy mixtures (at least that is what I read in the new QDB book). I am not an expert on woodgraining, but I can say for a fact that that coin will not receive a sticker. image
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I say woodgrained. the toning streakes are continuous from the fields to the devices. If it were wiped, there would be some interuption right next to the devices.

    JJ
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  • << <i>I say woodgrained. the toning streakes are continuous from the fields to the devices. If it were wiped, there would be some interuption right next to the devices.

    JJ >>

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  • MesquiteMesquite Posts: 4,075 ✭✭✭
    Looks woodgrained to me. The reverse should show something similar only running from northwest to southeast. Does it?
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Woodgrain....looking at some of the lines, they stick out versus go into the coin, as wiping would do.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice woodgrain...

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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    Looks good to me. What's the reverse look like? Heres a 17-P with an alloy mix issue:


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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Woodgrain, and a very unattractive one at that.
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  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    bad planchet... COOL COIN (IMHO)

    classic "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitely woodgrain, (IMO)... continuous throughout the surface... I would expect it to be the same on the reverse. Cheers, RickO
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,131 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it!

    Looks woodgrain to me.
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  • << <i>Woodgrain, and a very unattractive one at that. >>




    Woodgrain, and a friggin awesome one at that...sweet lookin lincoln
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Another vote for woodgrain. While it's most commonly seen in early S-mint cents, it occasionally happened with Philly planchets, too.


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    << <i>Woodgrain, and a very unattractive one at that. >>




    Woodgrain, and a friggin awesome one at that...sweet lookin lincoln >>



    Ditto - that thing is sweet.
  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭
    Woodgrain for sure........

    TC71

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • << <i>Woodgrain, and a very unattractive one at that. >>



    Damn, Fifth...always so negatoryimage. I know that deep down your a closet woodgrain Lincoln aficianadoimage



    Unfortunately, the reverse is not as nice and has some issues. Nonetheless, the coin is uncirculated...MS62/3 but the grade really doesn't matter. It is all about the woodgrainimage

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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,424 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Woodgrain, and a very unattractive one at that. >>



    Don't worry about his statement. He is just having one of those "Can't See Chit" days.

    Ken
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find it interesting that some collectors/dealers are now promoting woodgrain as a positive. It isn't.
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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    Hey OneCent......I'm wondering if it isn't both?

    I see a couple of the very thin streaks that look like they have some relief or depth to them. Particularly, the one on the forehead directly above Lincoln's eye. It looks like it is a little scrape that continues into the upper right field.

    Is that just the photo?
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,720 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I find it interesting that some collectors/dealers are now promoting woodgrain as a positive. It isn't. >>



    Neither is toning, but it often changes the price drastically.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like nice an even toning, like the obverse of this coin. I don't like uneven toning like the reverse of this coin. It is due to uneven alloy mixture. Here is my description:
    1908-S/S Snow-1 MS-64BN
    Actually Red-brown, due to a planchet streak on the reverse that is nearly full red. This is due to improper mixing of the alloy. It is quite dramatic on this piece. The Snow-1 repunched mintmark has proved to be very scarce. In checking my records, this is only the 4th example I have handled in the past 10 years. The repunching is very clear and distinct. This would likely be more if the planchet were more even-colored.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It needs an acetone bath to remove the film that is between the bust and rim.
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,292 ✭✭✭✭
    Rick,
    on the 1908-s/s that you picture, i noticed it resides in an Eagle Eye approved slab......since you make the comment that you dont really care for the coin's reverse; was is hard for you to decide to sticker this one? if so, what deciding factor won you over? just curious

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, to be honest, and I think most people who look at the picture will argee, that the coins is pretty nice otherwise. The problem is only with the planchet - pre striking. So for the grade, I like it. Also if this was in a MS63 holder, it wouldn't last in it very long - the REAL definition of a MS64, right?
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,423 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey OneCent......I'm wondering if it isn't both?

    I see a couple of the very thin streaks that look like they have some relief or depth to them. Particularly, the one on the forehead directly above Lincoln's eye. It looks like it is a little scrape that continues into the upper right field.

    Is that just the photo? >>



    I'm not "OneCent" but I saw what you were talking about on his forehead...that's just a contact hit...same as with any coin. Just happens to look like it is part of the streak.


    It needs an acetone bath to remove the film that is between the bust and rim.
    I agree....that should come right off

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    I'm gettin a woody
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