is this a 1914/3 BN?

zeek

or my imagination? pic
or peak

ahooka454

its a bad shot, but i think it is. it has a top bar like the 3's that are out there. i think it is a 1914/3

tradedollarnut

Aren't ALL 1914/3 buffalo nickels just one's imagination?

ahooka454

nope. if there is evidenace of a top bar on diff. examples, what diff about that than the 1918/7? the jeff 1943/2 maybe ?able, but i think the buff is legit.

tradedollarnut

Sure, there's evidence. But it takes a lot of one's imagination to fill it in as an overdate. It's hardly worth the premium like overdates you can actually see - the 1918/7 for example.

ahooka454

on nicer examples of the 1914/3 it looks like the 1918/7 i think its legit and worthy of more research. i dont understand why they bring more but they do. all the mint is is a factory. granted its a coin factory.

tradedollarnut

on nicer examples of the 1914/3 it looks like the 1918/7

nah. On nicer examples you don't have to use quite as much imagination to see the complete top crossbar.

ahooka454

this is why i love the boards, different opionions and thoughts, i still think its a true overdate, maybe youre the guy buying them all up?

i think oone day it will be given the credit it deserves.

tradedollarnut

Of course it's a true overdate. But who really cares? If you look at dates close enough, many many more have vestiges of an underdigit on them. Did you know that there are multiple dies of 1942 dimes where you can see remnants of a 1 under the 2? But they are totally worthless because the only one anyone wants is the one you can see with your bare eyes.

My point is not that it's not an overdate, but that it's worth very little as an overdate because so much imagination is required to 'fill in the 3'.

ahooka454

TDN,

Your right about this coin. i enhancted the image and it changed alot. this isnt the 1914/3 but i do still see what looks like a cross bar at the right place on the big image.
On the enhancted its gone. maybe shading or lighting but good call on your part sir.


I tip my hat...


Adam


I still think the real one is out there, this one is not it though.

zeek

1:1

koynekwest

Your coin is too low of a grade to tell for sure. I don't see any of the die markers for the variety either. Unlike most overdates, this was the product of a working hub and involved several working dies, so each of the seven currently known working dies will have their own unique die markers.

The 1914/13 is a perfectly legitimate overdate. Early die states of Die #1 and Die #2, the best dies, have just as clear of an underdigit, if not a clearer underdigit, than other such accepted overdates as the 1943/2 Jefferson and the 1942-D 2/1 Mercury. But because of the working hub situation they are more common than typically produced overdates. (Each die may have produced as many as 150,000 coins and there are three nice dies for this coin, so we're talking around a half a million coins produced. Many have had the date worn away, tho.

I am currently working on a section in my abraded die book that covers and identifies each of the seven known dies. I have a nice early die state example of Die #1 that I will try to post here on the BB.