PSL & ticket prices for Cowboy's new stadium
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$16K - $150K for a PSL per seat?!? Club seats for $340?!? Surely Jerry can't be serious.
Well if the stadium costs $1.1B, guess the money has to come from somewhere.
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Wow.
Well if the stadium costs $1.1B, guess the money has to come from somewhere.
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Wow.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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Some longtime season ticket holders are probably going to fall by the wayside because of the price but I expect they
won't have a big problem selling those $150,000 seats to wealthy individuals and various businesses that want to
impress a potential high rolling customer they are trying to deal with by taking them to a Cowboys game to be pampered
and wined and dined.
That's a lot of expensive seats to sell out in order to avoid local blackouts...
<< <i>You're right, there's some fat wallets in Dallas but I don't know how many would be willing to pony up that much.
That's a lot of expensive seats to sell out in order to avoid local blackouts... >>
I guess if the seats don't sell they can always lower the price but probably without a lot of fanfare as that
would be a bit embarassing.
In short the Raiders have been a fiasco since returning to Oakland. When the 16 years is up, more nastiness will take place.
For the Texans, I had to pay a $5,000 PSL, which lasts 30 years. However, if they do a "major" renovation before then, technically they could request another PSL. Then I pay $20 to park and $90 for each game. Don't mean to brag but my seats are absolutely amazing; 30 rows up and at the 45 on the home side.
We had guaranteed sell-outs the 1st five years, paid by McNair (the Owner). Since then, we haven't even come close to not selling out (I know, double negative). While many fans threatened to cancel their season tickets two season ago, we actually have gained season ticket sales since.
<< <i>I guess if the seats don't sell they can always lower the price but probably without a lot of fanfare as that
would be a bit embarassing. >>
I don't foresee that happening. If they sold some and then reduced the rates without giving a discount to the original purchases, I see a HUGE lawsuit. Also, the prices they are currently quoting are needed to make the deal work.
To put things into perspective, Reliant cost +/- $350MM and that included a major renovation of the Astrodomain (which is an adjacent exhibition hall). I've been to a few football stadiums and in my biased opinion, Reliant is one of the best, bar none.
But $1.1B?
Honestly, don't know how the numbers work.
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<< <i>That's an interesting perspective, Sanction, thanks.
For the Texans, I had to pay a $5,000 PSL, which lasts 30 years. However, if they do a "major" renovation before then, technically they could request another PSL. Then I pay $20 to park and $90 for each game. Don't mean to brag but my seats are absolutely amazing; 30 rows up and at the 45 on the home side.
We had guaranteed sell-outs the 1st five years, paid by McNair (the Owner). Since then, we haven't even come close to not selling out (I know, double negative). While many fans threatened to cancel their season tickets two season ago, we actually have gained season ticket sales since.
<< <i>I guess if the seats don't sell they can always lower the price but probably without a lot of fanfare as that
would be a bit embarassing. >>
I don't foresee that happening. If they sold some and then reduced the rates without giving a discount to the original purchases, I see a HUGE lawsuit. Also, the prices they are currently quoting are needed to make the deal work.
To put things into perspective, Reliant cost +/- $350MM and that included a major renovation of the Astrodomain (which is an adjacent exhibition hall). I've been to a few football stadiums and in my biased opinion, Reliant is one of the best, bar none.
But $1.1B?
Honestly, don't know how the numbers work. >>
How the hell did you guys lose the Oilers with all this cash flowing into the Texans?
<< <i>How the hell did you guys lose the Oilers with all this cash flowing into the Texans? >>
I'm really hungover from last night (Go Horns!), so I'll give you a quick cliff notes version.
In the late 80s ('88 I think), Bud Adams threatened to move the Oilers to JAX if we didn't renovate the dome. We gave in and issued $70MM in bonds to cover the rehab, which included tearing down the historic scoreboard just to put in +/- 15,000 seats.
Then after we lost to KC in the '94 playoffs and Bud said the team that went to 7 (?) consecutive playoffs would be dismantled, then had a surprise press conference. Without discussing it with anyone, he announced that he wanted a new retractable stadium that would house the Oilers and Rockets. Keep in mind, the Rockets' Owner, Les Alexander, nor our Mayor didn't even know about it. During the conference, Bud was fumbling with the model and it looked like a pre-schooler put it together.
So anyway, there was animosity between Bob Lanier (or Mayor) and Bud. Bob said we were still paying off the less than 10 year renovation (and still are today) and told Bud to go eff himself. Without even asking for the fan's support first, Bud, that greedy SOB, signed exclusive negotiations with NASH to build a new stadium. It was a done deal and Houston couldn't do anything.
The fans were SOL and had no recourse. So, they responded with their wallets and didn't purchase tickets. I remember the last season, there were maybe 10,000 fans in the stands.
Bad times.
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<< <i>I still can't figure out how Bob Kraft built the new Pats stadium without resorting to PSL's. Obviously, it can be done - but must not be too appealing to owners. >>
thats easy, they were playing in the worst professional stadium on the planet ...it was a no brainer to all involved to get a stadium deal done...felt like i was at a big high school stadium.....
And I've been to The Razor and sorry to say but I wouldn't put it in the same class as some of the other new stadiums.
No offense, Pat fan.